On 10/10/2012 09:09 PM, . TERMTECH wrote:
> (CC'd to dev list in case they're snoozing...)
>
> Hello Kaya!

Hi Tim,

>
> Quote:
>
> "first up MIDI note/event velocities.... I'm currently using the 'Piano
> Role' editor to input note events into the system for base and drums. I
> haven't however found anywhere to edit individual note velocities by
> value."
>
> I bet you found this already, but look on the 'note info' toolbar.
> You'll see boxes for setting notes start time, length, pitch,
> on velocity and off velocity, as well as a 'relative or absolute'
> mode icon/button.

I wasn't quite sure what the velocity on and velocity off meant but now 
I get it. It works fine... however, perhaps I should post a bug report 
as when multiple notes are selected and the velocity is changed to say 
70, the note velocities end up maxing out to 127??

>
> ...

> I also noticed when you close the dialog the Arranger becomes active
> hiding the pianoroll - would be a real annoyance for anyone trying
> to work quickly...

Yeah I noticed this too..... that is quite weird.

>
> "Is there anywhere I can just input the actual value??"
> See above: Re the Note Info toolbar.
>
> "At the same time which is weird is that if I 'modify velocity' to say
> 40%, the next time I input a note in the piano role editor the velocity
> is at a really low level and not at 100% or whatever the default gets
> set to? 100 or whatever?? Again numerical values would be useful here."
>
> Tested: That is not the 'modify velocity' box's fault.
> It appears to be the LAST note that was selected governs the new
> note's velocity. Yet there seems to be no way to reset this 'running'
> value back to some default other than entering a new value in the
> Modify Velocity box or Note Info toolbar (see above).
>
> So good catch!
> Our drum editor has predefined 'levels' depending on accelerator
> keys pressed at the time of drawing, so is not affected by this.
> Could you possibly perhaps enter that as a bug in the tracker,
> seems we could do a wee bit better, there in the pianoroll ...

Bug opened.

>
> "In the drum editor mode the velocities don't seem to show up at all??
> Though I think that I have seen that it is a bug while searching Google."
> Ah, you need to actually select a drum note in the left-hand
> drum map panel. For the drum editor the velocity graph only shows
> velocities for the currently selected drum note.
> (Which in some ways is superior to the pianoroll in that it DOES
> allow to select velocities of same-time notes.)
> Thanks for reminding us. If you could enter that as a bug as well,
> because I'd long planned to change that, possibly making it an option.

Bug opened.

> I observed the other day in MusE's older (er, 'newer') branch
> muse-evolution, that ALL the velocities are shown, but there's
> no option. I still hold out hope there must be an intelligent way
> to select same-time velocity bars "sans user-option"... Ha.
> "Also in the drum editor I'm currently using the Roland MC303 instrument
> program definition, and all works really well bar the grid and the
> actual values on the left don't seem to match up. If input something
> under 'kick drum' nothing is played - switching to the piano role I can
> see that it's on a note which has no sound assigned to it internally on
> the MC303. Of course moving it to the proper note works but it just
> means that I can't use the drum editor due to confusion. Left clicking
> the sound name in the drum editor does play the sound however; so is
> there anyway to align them?"
> Ooh, sounds like a drum map problem, will check.
> Hm, off the top of my head I'd say the drum map mechanisms should be
> working so is it possible our MC303 map file is wrong?
> I'll have to grab the MC303 manual...

On left shows as "Kick Drum" "Note C2" but then directly right of that 
nothing plays? If note entered then shows up as C-2 in piano role 
editor. Does look like a map alignment issue:

http://www.rolandus.com/products/details/171/support/

for manual ;-)

>
> "Additionally the 'seek forward'/'seek backward'/'record' controls don't
> seem to function from MMC..... while running from command line, text
> pops up claiming "not yet implemented". It would be really great to get
> the transport controls of my Novation Remote working with Muse, though
> 'play' and 'stop' do work."
> Right, my department.
> Let's see if we can change that to "implemented"...
> I fixed a lot of the sync stuff and I recall researching that
> particular code and I'm sure I would have tried to implement them
> so there may be a reason (possibly involving frame time via tempo maps
> instead of straight ticks, which I think plagued me on one of those
> MMC locate commands).
> "Lastly, there seems to be a bug with MIDI clock and start/stop
> information getting sent together..... while running my Roland MC303 in
> sequencer mode, if set to 'slave mode' (listen to midi clock and
> start/stop events) I get clock input showing up on the MC303 but no
> starting or stopping of the sequencer??
>
> In 'remote mode' start and stop works but the box is clocked
> internally.... this is kind of odd as checking the same thing using
> Seq24 all seems fine so I'm not sure where the issue lies??
>
> --in both cases Muse has been instructed to send out MMC/clock and
> timecode data to the MC303."
> Mm, should be OK. Are you sure MC303 accepts MMC commands?
> I think what you want is the "Send midi realtime output"
> column ("tr") in the sync settings dialog. These are realtime
> transport commands built in to midi - different from
> MMC or MTC commands. Should work on virtually all devices.

Setting tr worked. It's strange as I had everything checked but I'm sure 
MMC and MTC caused a conflict somewhere.... the MC303 can be a bit buggy 
at times. For some reason the Novation Remote 25 won't change the 
program/bank value either as it simply resets the tone to t-/-- ??? 
Luckily the "instrument map" in Muse works brilliantly.... oh but 
another small issue: when selecting a sound, they select correctly but 
seem labeled wrongly in the arrange window after being set?

>
> No troubles with my Roland TR-505 or Ensoniq ESQ1 keyboard...

Nice kit ;-)

>
> FYI: If using Jack midi devices in MusE currently the actual clock
> signal output may not be very accurate when MusE is Master -
> ALSA midi devices may give better results ATM.
> (I need to get in there and put the clock events into Jack properly.)

Hmm..... I use NTP to clock my system perhaps it would be a good idea to 
tie the clock from Muse to something like that? Say a publicly available 
NTP server then calculate the tempo from there? Maybe I'm going a bit 
too nutty professor on that one though?? Would be kinda funny if NTP 
server was clocked to GPS effectively making the tempo clocked to a 
satellite :-)

> "Apart from these little issues I must say that I'm really impressed and
> having a lot of fun learning this new software. It's got a lot of
> potential and character and I'm hoping to start integrating it into a
> larger setup running with my Mackie DXB and other sound modules and
> synths."
>
> Careful, familiarity breeds contempt.
> Or an overwhelming obsession to make it better - look at us. Ha!

I actually prefer things running on Linux and am a real fan of 
opensource software which is why I've practically moved my whole setup 
over to it. I'm not a fan of softsynths either so as long as I have a 
decent sequencer to interface MIDI outboard it's cool. Audio is another 
issue in terms of hardware support.... --->

>
> "Just wish that there was support for MOTU audio interfaces on
> Linux but they don't seem to like the platform :-( I'm personally not a
> big fan of Apple after the switch from PowerPC processors to Intel and I
> don't like Windowz either."
> Hm, FFADO site says that company is "hostile" which is pretty strong.
> So you really do mean "don't like" not as in "doesn't work well with"...
> Oh well, each company has their reasons...

Exactly, though would be cool to get Pro Tools or MOTU hardware working 
with ALSA.... doubt it will ever happen though. M-Audio do seem to work 
well though not sure about Focusrite though?

>
> Tim.
>

Regards,


Kaya

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