> > >
> > > What do you think? Possible? A multi-architecture 32/64 bridge?
> >
> > Hehe, well, it is annoying that we can't just allow 32-bit plugins but I
> > don't think this is a big issue.
>
> Yeah, I was a bit hyper there. Our code can remain the same
> and a bridge can be external and just do its thing.
>
> But it'd be nice to actually /embed/ the bridge into the app.
>
It would, for the 32-bit Win VST case.
>
> I understand that's what you were looking into, with the AW code.
>
Nah, can't really say that I was looking to embed but rather understand and
solve my own workflow, Andrew on the other hand, I think is very much
interested in adding an internal solution :)
>
> > All the open source synths have 64-bit builds (I've resolved to using
> most
> > synths from falktx marvelous kxstudio, where all softwares are built for
> > both 32- and 64-bit) and in the case of closed source linux VSTs I
> haven't
> > come across any yet that doesn't exist in both 32 and 64 bit.
> > The expection is old closed source VST dlls, but as airwave is just such
> a
> > 32/64 bit bridge, old 32-bit Win VSTs can be run under 64-bit MusE.
> >
> > Also, I should note that for the time being I'm back to using dssi-vst
> and
> > a 32-bit OS for my actual music making. For starters, chunk support
> doesn't
> > seem to work correctly with airwave + muse (this could simply be a timing
> > issue, I've added some experimental delays to the dssi-vst chunk support
> > also, since I was experiencing sporadic load failures).
> > I also get rather frequent xruns using airwave, haven't tried to dig
> deeper
> > into this but it is possible that the IPC mechanism that it currently
> uses
> > isn't as reliable as the old/correct solution. I think I've mentioned
> > before about dssi-vst stopped working with recent kernels in a 64/32-bit
> > scenario due to some change in the kernel or libc,
>
> Absolutely. Yeah I know.
> I just finished a major investigation myself, why 64-bit dssi-vst is
> broken.
> Sucks. That's why I turned to Airwave to see what it's all about.
> I will try to help with supporting it for sure.
>
> One way to look at it, is dssi-vst is kinda old. There are some broken
> things
> that will probably never be fixed. (Closing windows. Controller ranges.
> etc.)
>
Actually the closing windows problem is solved in the most recent dssi-vst
from kxstudio:
https://github.com/falkTX/dssi-vst
I'm not entirely sure what the controller range problem is, could you
explain?
Maybe it's time to retire it in favour of somethng else that can support
> more features?
>
Indeed it is getting a bit old in the tooth, I don't think it can support
64bit VSTs at all in it's current state and I would think it's not far of
that win VSTs are no longer released for 32-bit.
As for alternatives there is also Carla, which is also from
falktx/kxstudio. I have to admit I haven't really understood how to use
Carla but it is supposed to be very powerful. Might be me that isn't
compatible ;)
> NOTE: I mentioned that the last time I went through this with dssi-vst,
> I simply installed an older dssi-vst-64-bit package and it worked !
> I have that package here, will try and report back. Might be too old by
> now...
>
> > which is the main reason
> > why I now use a 32-bit OS for music making. airwave worked around this by
> > using some low-level ipc mechanism that I forget the name of,
>
> Futex? I read some of those threads :-)
>
Yeah, that was the thing.
/Robert
>
> > from some
> > forum threads I've gotten the feeling this might not be a viable long
> term
> > solution though, possibly due to worse ipc performance (again, heresay).
> >
> > /Robert
>
> T.
>
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