On Sunday, May 29, 2016 1:52:20 AM EDT you wrote:
> On Sat, 28 May 2016 15:18:48 -0400
> 
> "Tim E. Real" <[email protected]> wrote:
> > I hope you will find it much smoother now.
> > You can play, edit, and seek.
> 
> Just given this a quick spin.
> 
> > I note that MusE actually played it and spit out terminal messages
> > 
> >  nicer than Ardour or QTractor, both of which displayed funny characters.
> > 
> > MusE seems to also select the banks more correctly.
> 
> For ardour I always have to disable bank root otherwise it tries to change
> it to a nonexistent one :(
> 
> > However, I must point out that your song (likely Yoshimi actually?)
> > 
> >  crashes Ardour, QTractor, and MusE, intermittently, depending on
> >  what you are doing. Both Ardour and QTractor would even crash
> >  sometimes just playing the song.
> 
> Can you give more details. I'm not seeing this at all here. I'm on a
> moderately good dual core intel, and only start to see problems when going
> donw to 32 frames/period. Quite a lot of Xruns in Ardour, 2 in muse, none
> in qtractor. Even with quite a bit of mucking about I got no actual
> crashes.

You are right, sorry. I should've mentioned this, I'm running 
 a pretty old PC single core with not much RAM.
This has a lot to do with it. Waiting for new(er) PC soon.
The song usually plays OK, just once in a while crashes.
I just need a wee bit more power.

I aways joke that this old 'found' PC is a speed benchmark.
"If it runs on this - it'll run on anything."
Well, that is, until the latest X drivers for my old AGP cards 
 stop working, which has now happened.

> > For example be careful in MusE, if you are adjusting the midi patch
> > 
> >  of a track, Yoshimi can crash.
> 
> Do you mean changing voice parameters in the gui, or just volume pan etc?

Mm, it seemed only with program changes so far, which can now be done
 right from our midi strips. Adjusting midi bank or program seemed to do it.

Twice yesterday when I attempted to load the MusE song it just 
 crashed before finishing. Other times were just fine.
New PC should help. But I'm always curious, I always question things - 
 I'm questionable? - so I'll poke around see if I can make things better.

> > Some of this may be issues with Yoshimi.
> > Especially the slow program and bank selection - there seems to be
> > 
> >  quite a holdup in the realtime which may crash it. You can hear
> >  stuttering in all three DAWs when the song passes to those
> >  program changes.

> > Yet I am still observing some non-related LV2 crashes here,
> >  so in MusE's case some of these issues may be still our fault.

Yes that's still very odd. Nothing at all to do with Yoshimi.
I'm on the trail... Where's my can of Raid...

> > Stay tuned, investigating. Hope to make it better...
> > 
> > Thanks.
> > Tim.
> 
> I'm a bit 'wired' at the moment. I've spent most of the day trying to track
> down a bug in yoshimi that goes back at least to version 0.068 (2011).
> amazingly a binary image of 0.036 runs and is correct, but these days I
> can't compile any of the intervening versions :( The 'morph' modulator is
> quite wrong. I've never used it before, so only just noticed it.

Whoa, man! 
Our ChangeLog reveals many such 'new' old bug fixes, even recently.

A few weeks ago MusE suddenly and steadfastly refused to load the 
 configuration file for me, a mere dozen lines into the application code. 
"Nope. Not gonna load it. Nya nya!". I'm like, wha? Spent several hours 
 and realized it was several corrupt string usages which had been there 
 for a while. Duh.
Our recent 3.0pre release still has that bug. Git master has the fix.

> 
> Well, I'm too tied to do any more - it's 2am here, so time for the sak.
> 
> Will (pleased that *something* seems to be working now)

No problem. Lemme know how it goes. Happy to help!

Tim.


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