On 11 November 2014 13:32, Bill Fischofer <[email protected]> wrote:

> I would be happy with a git interface to patches.linaro.org
>

patches is just - http://jk.ozlabs.org/projects/patchwork/  and is not
intened to replace a mailing list unfortuantly, take a peek at their faq.
An additional problem is the Linaro have modified our instance of patchwork
to track only contributions from linaro email addresses, to date I have not
got traction on getting a clean instance installed for ODP, but the value
from it appeared to be slight so I have not pursued it very vigorously.


so that patches can be pulled directly from an official repository of
> pending patches.  I don't like the fact that every list subscriber is on
> their own to as far as responsibility for keeping track of e-mails.  That
> seems very error-prone.
>
> Actually, pending patches SHOULD be maintained as part of the repository
> itself.  That's what the origin is for, no? When I do a git clone I point
> to the authoritative base for the project.  That's where patches intended
> for merge should also reside so there's no question as to what they are,
> how they relate, or what their status is.  Reviewed-by, Tested-by, etc.
> should also be just git commands against those pending patches.  Gerrit,
> et. al. would then just be providing a GUI front end for ease of use.
>
> Anyone cloning the repository or doing an update from it would also
> automatically cache the patches that are pending against it for easy local
> review/applying/testing, etc.  Deprecated/obsoleted patches could also
> easily be noted by the maintainer so that we don't have people wasting time
> on patches that have been withdrawn or superseded.
>
> But then again this is a digression from using the tool we have at hand.
>
> Bill
>
>
>
> On Tue, Nov 11, 2014 at 12:14 PM, Mike Holmes <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>>
>> On 11 November 2014 11:33, Taras Kondratiuk <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> On 11/11/2014 06:22 PM, Anders Roxell wrote:
>>>
>>>> On 11 November 2014 17:12, Taras Kondratiuk <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On 11/11/2014 04:50 PM, Anders Roxell wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2014-11-11 08:24, Bill Fischofer wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So what you're saying is that patches aren't always the practical
>>>>>>> solution?
>>>>>>>    :)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I like patches better... however, different taste =)
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I spoke with Anders earlier and will get setup on people.linaro.org
>>>>>>> today.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> get a setup on git.linaro.org/people/<username>/...
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Can we try as an experiment reviewing this series in Gerrit?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> and again, gerrit isn't good for discussions in patches =(
>>>>
>>>>
>>> Why not? It has its pros and cons if compared to ML review.
>>
>>
>> I also wanted gerrit when B&B in Linaro switched to it, here is what more
>> experience gerit users told me were the flaws.
>>
>>    1. you may need a linaro account to send patches to ODP,  I assume
>>    this is true if we re use Linaro gerrit infrastructure
>>    2. The major concern was that apparently it is hard to have
>>    discussions via gerrit, I have never tried beyond using it for the q/a
>>    Testing repo in Linaro which are small straightforward patches.
>>
>> I like gerrit because
>>
>>    - current state of all patches is extremely clear - no grepping your
>>    mail
>>    - mandatory reviewers can be specified - you know who to target to
>>    get signoffs, on the other side you know you are expected to review
>>    something (maintainers, area experts get put on this list)
>>    - Objections to patches are clearly documented and not lost down a
>>    mail thread - no recycling issues
>>
>> I personally believe that the discussion issue no.2 is resolved by the
>> patch submitter taking the initiative and calling, hangout, mailing the
>> folks with comments and then recording the result in gerrit rather than
>> bogging the list with the minutia - we could do that now too :)
>>
>> Item one can be fixed no doubt, but for item two I am not sure it fixes
>> our fundamental problem, we need tight communication between submitters any
>> key reviewers before a patch even hits the list.
>>
>> For 1.0 we should stick with what we have, we cannot afford a round of
>> assigning gerrit permissions to people and learning the too etcl right now.
>>
>> Mike
>>
>>
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