"Also ODP implementations are expected to handle a lot of the mutual
exclusion
and synchronization in dedicated hardware, obviating the need for a
lot of performance optimized software solutions."

This is the key architectural distinction between ODP and other
software-centric solutions.  The ODP APIs are attempting to capture *functional
abstractions *that we expect (over time) to be implemented directly in
hardware.   This is why we don't want APIs that presume an implementation
model or that expose implementation details.  A good API allows an
application to state concisely *what it wants* and gives the implementation
flexibility to determine how to provide the requested functionality in an
optimal manner.

On Tue, Dec 2, 2014 at 9:20 AM, Ola Liljedahl <[email protected]>
wrote:

> On 1 December 2014 at 23:47, Maxim Uvarov <[email protected]> wrote:
> > Hello,
> >
> > Paul E. McKenney (kernel rcu maintainer) just published new articles
> about
> > memory models and atomic things. I guess it might be interesting for
> > everybody:
> Yes good stuff. Thanks for digging this up.
>
> >
> > N4321: Towards Implementation and Use of memory order consume
> > http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2014/n4321.pdf
> Looks very interesting. I will save it for this evening in the sofa.
>
> >
> > Linux-Kernel Memory Model
> > http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2014/n4322.html
> Note that much of the memory barriers semantics etc are defined using
> C11/C++11 memory models (which extend the Release Consistency model
> from where acquire and release definitions come). Why cross the river
> for water?
>
> Linux seems to invent the optimal solution for each and every use case
> in the kernel, leading to a lot of locking and atomics primitives. To
> quote the article: "The Linux kernel has an embarrassingly large
> number of locking primitives". I think this makes the Linux model
> difficult to use (the pieces of it that you use would have to be a
> consistent subset used in the proper way) and to understand (and
> understanding is important for correct usage). Also ODP
> implementations are expected to handle a lot of the mutual exclusion
> and synchronization in dedicated hardware, obviating the need for a
> lot of performance optimized software solutions.
>
> >
> > Out-of-Thin-Air Execution is Vacuous
> > http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2014/n4323.html
> >
> > Use Cases for Thread-Local Storage
> > http://www.open-std.org/jtc1/sc22/wg21/docs/papers/2014/n4324.html
> >
> >
> > BR,
> > Maxim.
> >
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