On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 09:26:08AM -0600, Bill Fischofer wrote:
> On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 7:22 AM, Jerin Jacob <[email protected]
> > wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 06:09:34AM -0600, Bill Fischofer wrote:
> > > I think Petri should weigh in on these questions.  For the first one,
> > what
> > > problems do you anticipate some platforms having with that equation?
> >
> > I have two issues around the unit test case,
> > 1) packet_len = ODP_CONFIG_PACKET_BUF_LEN_MIN - ODP_CONFIG_PACKET_HEADROOM
> > -
> > ODP_CONFIG_PACKET_TAILROOM creates two segments in my platform and
> > tailroom/headroom expects
> > to work within a segment ?
> >
> 
> Can you elaborate on why this is the case?  The intent here was to define
> what constituted a single segment so if it's not accomplishing that goal it
> would be useful to understand why not.

OK. We have segment specific meta data(as I mentioned in beginning of the mail 
thread) 
in each segment that can't be counted in
ODP_CONFIG_PACKET_HEADROOM and/or ODP_CONFIG_PACKET_TAILROOM.


> 
> >
> > 2) pool creation with number of buffers as one and creating a segmented
> > buffers as
> > packet_len is more than one segment.
> >
> 
> A packet (I use that term here since in our current definition only packets
> can support segmentation or headroom) is an object that consists of packet
> metadata plus packet data.  Packet data is stored in one or more segments,
> depending on how the pool it is allocated from is created, but independent
> of the number of segments used to store this data it is still a single
> packet.  So num_bufs (which will presumably be num_packets in the new pool
> definitions) always has a precise meaning.

but it has to be num_bufs == num_packet segments

> 
> 
> >
> > >
> > > I think the cleanest solution would be to have the platform segment size
> > > for a given pool accessible as pool metadata, e.g.,
> > > odp_pool_seg_size(pool), but the real issue is why does the application
> > > want this information?  If an application wants to ensure that packets
> > are
> > > unsegmented then the simplest solution is to re-introduce the notion of
> > > unsegmented pools.  If an application creates an unsegmented pool then by
> > > definition any object allocated from that pool will only consist of a
> > > single segment.  By contrast, if the application is designed to support
> > > segments then it shouldn't care.
> >
> > IMO, its simple to add a ODP_CONFIG or odp_packet_alloc of len == 0 for
> > default packet size
> >
> 
> ODP_CONFIG is how we're doing things now.  More specific configurations
> should be doable on a per-pool basis (subject to implementation
> restrictions) given an expanded odp_pool_param_t definition.
> 
> 
> >
> > >
> > > On Mon, Jan 19, 2015 at 3:27 AM, Jerin Jacob <
> > [email protected]
> > > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 09:45:12AM -0600, Bill Fischofer wrote:
> > > > > Application-visible sizes refer to application-visible data.
> > Metadata is
> > > > > always implementation-specific and not included in such counts.
> > Metadata
> > > > > is "off books" data that is associated with the packet but is not
> > part of
> > > > > any addressable packet storage. The advantage of having a packet
> > object
> > > > is
> > > > > that the packet APIs can refer to the packet independent of any
> > > > > implementation and not to how the packet may be represented in
> > storage
> > > > on a
> > > > > particular platform.
> > > >
> > > > But coming back to my question, How an application can create a one
> > segment
> > > > full length packet ?
> > > > Following equation may not be correct in all platforms
> > > > packet_len = ODP_CONFIG_PACKET_BUF_LEN_MIN -
> > ODP_CONFIG_PACKET_HEADROOM -
> > > > ODP_CONFIG_PACKET_TAILROOM;
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Trying to reason about buffers that are used to store packet data is
> > > > > inherently non-portable and should be discouraged. Hopefully the
> > switch
> > > > to
> > > > > events will help move us in that direction since packets are no
> > longer a
> > > > > type of buffer using the new nomenclature.
> > > >
> > > > Should we remove  odp_buffer_size(buf) == odp_packet_buf_len(pkt)) test
> > > > case
> > > > or wait for event rework to happen ?
> > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > On Sat, Jan 17, 2015 at 5:52 AM, Jacob, Jerin <
> > > > > [email protected]> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Some odp_packet API queries based on exiting odp packet unit test
> > case,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 1) In exiting odp packet unit test case, In order to create one
> > full
> > > > > > length packet in one segment,
> > > > > > We have used following formula,
> > > > > > packet_len = ODP_CONFIG_PACKET_BUF_LEN_MIN -
> > > > ODP_CONFIG_PACKET_HEADROOM -
> > > > > > ODP_CONFIG_PACKET_TAILROOM;
> > > > > >
> > > > > > This may not be valid in all platform if the packet segment has
> > segment
> > > > > > specific meta data.
> > > > > > I think, we need to create either new ODP_CONFIG to define the
> > default
> > > > > > packet size
> > > > > > or odp_packet_alloc of len == 0 can be used to create default
> > packet
> > > > size.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > 2) If buffer is NOT aware of segmentation then
> > odp_buffer_size(buf) of
> > > > > > packet should be ODP_CONFIG_PACKET_BUF_LEN_MIN
> > > > > > instead of odp_buffer_size(buf) == odp_packet_buf_len(pkt)) .
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Any thoughts ?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > - Jerin
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