There is queue level context (odp_queue_get_context() / 
odp_queue_set_context()), which is (close to) flow level (depending on flow to 
queue mapping).

-Petri

From: ext Bill Fischofer [mailto:[email protected]]
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 3:50 PM
To: Savolainen, Petri (Nokia - FI/Espoo)
Cc: ext Zoltan Kiss; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [lng-odp] [API-NEXT PATCHv4 0/6] Add packet user metadata support

The question of prefetching is part of the larger issue of context management, 
which is something we discussed last year and then deferred.  I agree that this 
is key to achieving best performance, but we should address that as a 
first-order design rather than trying to tack it onto some existing APIs.  We 
need to have the ability to identify flow-level context that would be 
maintained with coherence across multiple packets associated with a flow. As 
you note, the per-packet metadata isn't flow-related but rather packet-related 
and so doesn't really cover this use case.

On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 7:18 AM, Savolainen, Petri (Nokia - FI/Espoo) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
I’m thinking different usage for these. The context pointer 
(odp_packet_userctx_ptr()) would point to some data structure in the memory, 
where as odp_packet_userarea() would be used as a per packet scratchpad memory. 
When implementation knows that the user stores a pointer, it can also prefetch 
the data behind the pointer. If the pointer is saved as part of the userarea, 
implementation cannot know where it is. Other advantage comes from get/set 
accessors vs random memory access – bits can be packed freely vs. must be 
contiguous with certain (8 byte) alignment. Enabling prefething is likely more 
important for performance, than bit packing. For shorter/cleaner API, we could 
drop _userctx_u64().

-Petri


From: ext Bill Fischofer 
[mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
Sent: Wednesday, April 22, 2015 2:46 PM
To: Savolainen, Petri (Nokia - FI/Espoo)
Cc: ext Zoltan Kiss; [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>

Subject: Re: [lng-odp] [API-NEXT PATCHv4 0/6] Add packet user metadata support

I'm not sure why we wouldn't want to just deprecate the 
odp_packet_user_ptr/_u64() calls. They were stopgaps since we didn't have user 
metadata in v1.0.  Now that we have that, what's the purpose of keeping the 
earlier calls?  The latter is a more flexible and capable feature, and can be 
equally efficient for small user metadata areas (implementation choice).

On Wed, Apr 22, 2015 at 6:37 AM, Savolainen, Petri (Nokia - FI/Espoo) 
<[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:
Hi,

After thinking this again, it's cleaner for the API (and the user) if these two 
user metadata fields are kept separate (as they currently are). The 
user_ptr/_u64 is always present and user_data only when param.pkt.udata_size is 
non-zero. Implementations have different ways to store both of these into the 
packet descriptor (maybe pointer to user_data is not needed, but it can be 
found with a fixed offset, etc).

However the naming of these two could be cleaner (== highlight the 
dependencies):
- odp_packet_user_ptr/_u64()        could be renamed to 
odp_packet_userctx_ptr/_u64()
- odp_packet_user_data/_data_size() could be renamed to 
odp_packet_userarea/userarea_size()
- we should avoid confusion with similar terms in DPDK
  - mbuf.userdata == current odp_packet_user_ptr()
  - mbuf.udata64  == current odp_packet_user_u64()

Opinions? I can send a patch for renames and documentation improvements.


-Petri



> -----Original Message-----
> From: ext Zoltan Kiss 
> [mailto:[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>]
> Sent: Tuesday, April 21, 2015 4:08 PM
> To: Bill Fischofer; 
> [email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>; Savolainen, Petri 
> (Nokia -
> FI/Espoo)
> Subject: Re: [lng-odp] [API-NEXT PATCHv4 0/6] Add packet user metadata
> support
>
> It seems to me all questions were answered, is there anything which
> prevents applying this into master branch?
> Petri?
>
> On 10/04/15 16:52, Bill Fischofer wrote:
> > v4 changes:
> > - Removed RFC status, patch is now ready for API-NEXT
> > - Added implementation of approved APIs
> > - Added user metadata tests to packet validation test
> >
> > v3 changes:
> > - Renamed odp_packet_user_metadata() to odp_packet_user_data()
> > - Split addr/size return, adding odp_packet_user_data_size()
> > - Moved udata_size to pkt structure within odp_pool_param_t
> >
> > v2 changes:
> > - Moved udata_size to odp_pool_param_t
> > - Renamed odp_packet_udata() to odp_packet_user_metadata()
> > - Removed odp_buffer_udata().  User metadata is for packets only
> >
> > RFC for proposed minimal API set for user metadata support
> > based on today's discussions.  Note that all initialization
> > and management of user metadata contents is the responsibility of
> > the ODP application. ODP APIs that copy system metadata will also
> > copy any associated user metadata as part of that operation, but
> > ODP will otherwise ignore these bytes.
> >
> > Bill Fischofer (6):
> >    api: packet: add user metadata APIs
> >    api: pool: add user metadata APIs
> >    linux-generic: buffer: restructure user mdatadata fields
> >    linux-generic: pool: add user metadata support
> >    linux-generic: packet: add user metadata support
> >    validation: packet: add user metadata tests
> >
> >   include/odp/api/packet.h                           | 20 ++++++++
> >   include/odp/api/pool.h                             |  4 ++
> >   .../linux-generic/include/odp_buffer_internal.h    |  4 +-
> >   platform/linux-generic/include/odp_pool_internal.h |  2 +-
> >   platform/linux-generic/odp_packet.c                | 34 ++++++++++++++
> >   platform/linux-generic/odp_pool.c                  | 34 +++++---------
> >   test/validation/odp_packet.c                       | 54
> ++++++++++++++++++++++
> >   7 files changed, 126 insertions(+), 26 deletions(-)
> >


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