2007/9/27, Yann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>: > - Canonical hosting sucks. You have the choice between poor dedicated > servers or being in canonical's datacenter and stick to 3 or 4 apps.
As it was said, these things are enough for nearly anyone, although I can see and I suffered from some limitations. > - As canonical is a company, it works like a "blackbox". The Ubuntu > Foundation was announced two years ago because "It's important for us to > distinguish the philanthropic and non-commercial work that is at the heart > of the Ubuntu project, from the commercial support and certification > programs that are the focus of Canonical Ltd.", said Mark Shuttleworth. > Sadly, this never happened, and I got told over and over I misunderstood That's simply unfair, man. > what the foundation was about. I was at the linuxtag in germany in 2006, you > had a Canonical both called "Ubuntu" and a "Ubuntu Community" booth held by > the locos. Anyway, if people want to fund Ubuntu, how can they now if the > money the give to canonical is going to be used for ubuntu, or to help > improve the support company that canonical is? Nothing says that money given > to canonical will be used for Ubuntu development or Locoteam sponsorship. There are a number of things to solve, of course. As a matter of fact, I cannot understand why two separate booths instead of a bigger one. > - Ubuntu owns Ubuntu trademarks and copyrights, and therefore uses it to > build exclusivity contracts for mechandising, for example. Which in theory > would mean loco would not be able to do ubuntu-related merchandising. As it > is one of our primary income modes, I find this a bit sad. (to be confirmed, > though). Maybe they have a slightly restrictive policy, but all in all it's not so bad. > - It is hard to get Cds, it is hard to get these "event boxes". And nobody > knows who gets them and how this is decided - black box system. The only > thing we know is they are needed, and if canonical don't produce them > anymore, someone else has too... and if we have to do it ourselves, it is a > lot cheaper to produce a lot and then distribute among locos :) It's excellent to have some Cds. I dissagree fondly on the "take it, it's for free" policy. Cds are only for these people who certainly will use it. > In the end, what is this mail for? Well, Ubuntufr and Ubuntude have quite > some money now, and a hosting which is reliable, and being further improved > to accept more locos. In some time (let's say a couple of months) we will > probably buy *stuff* (stickers, flyers, posters, shirts, polos, banners, > [put here whatever you want, it all still need to be discussed], like more > than we would need for our own locos, and find a way (logistic company? > someone with a lot of time? a company supporting ubuntu?) to get them > distributed among locos, along a yet-to-define process. I think this is an excellent idea. > In a medium to far future we may ask canonical for the right to build > another not-for-profit organisation with ubuntu in its name to separate the > money dedicated to this project from the money belonging directly to > ubuntu-fr and ubuntu-de. If we don't get it, well, we may build a not for > profit without ubuntu in its name :( But with that kind of organisation, Sorry, I don't understand why that's necessary. :-( -- Rafael Carreras Guillén | gpg.id 2C1AF9C5 http://rcarreras.blogspot.com Catalan LoCo Team -- loco-contacts mailing list [email protected] https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/loco-contacts
