On 07/16/2010 11:50 AM, Josep Sànchez wrote:
> I suppose the proposal will end being accepted, but I really, really
> desagree in using propietary closed source tools for the community
> work. Its absolutely goes against (at least as how I see it) the
> gnu/linux and FOSS communities principles, and I think that it brings
> me one step towards (and many people I know) leaving Ubuntu and
> installing another, preferably more careful with this kind of things,
> linux distro in our computers.
>
>    
While I totally agree with your sentiment, I think this is not
as important in this instance. What we are doing is leveraging
on the success of stackoverflow. We making us more visible in
new communities. It is marketing to the biggest extend. The
software part in this instance is not important. There are already
floss clones that allow you to run similar sites (shapado being
one of them).

Also, if you are so concerned about purity, how can you agree to
use the new Ubuntu design? It was not developed on floss! Or
why would you buy food from a supermarket that does not use floss.

Or, why do you agree to use mono, with all its intellectual property
issues within Ubuntu. Shouldn't there be a big push to replace all
the mono stuff?

Let's be real here. We are not a religious organization, that tries
to isolate itself in a cult. We need to be out there mingling
with people who are not yet part of this community. This is what this
is about!


> I truly believe that the end doesn't justify the means and, altough I
> think that the people that support this initiative does it with good
> intentions, I deeply desagree in the way it is going to be done
> (mainly in the tool that's going to be used). We are here, and Ubuntu
> is where it is, because many people has been really careful in this
> kind of things through the time and keeping things where they have to
> be. If we forget this, we are really lost.
>
> I'm really sorry to have to be somewhat forceful, but this is how I see it.
>
> Regards
>
>    
Well. fortunately we are FLOSS and as such we are open and not closed!
When we reach out we don't subtract, but we add. We are hopefully
bring new people into our fold. For that you have to sometimes go where
those people are and pick them up. Simultaneously, we also build up
a similar site (http://ubuntu.shapado.com) which runs on floss software
(yes I know, some will complain about the afero licence now, but still it
is gpl :)). So there is the possibility to transition all those new people
to the path of "enlightenment" as well!

Hope that reduces your concerns at least a bit :)

txwikinger


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