Ceki,
I was reading http://jakarta.apache.org/log4j/docs/critique.html today and
would like to request if you would make a posting to our opensource listserv
([EMAIL PROTECTED]) and perhaps also to our Expresso online Users
Forum
(http://www.jcorporate.com/components/internal/projframe.jsp?category=65) in
order to generate more responses to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] The
more that people are aware of the issues the more that they will be able to
participate.
Expresso uses log4j and Expresso has more than 51,000 downloads. We just
announced a new release today version 3.11.
Sandra Cann
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
P.S. As an aside Express is mispelled Espresso in the above URL and I was
wondering if you would correct.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2001 7:00 AM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED];
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Fwd: JSR47 vs. log4j
>
>
>
> Greetings,
>
> Since yesterday evening a non-negligible number of requests were
> directed to [EMAIL PROTECTED] I find Ellis Teer's
> comments (included below) quite interesting.
>
> My critique of the JSR47 API can be found at:
>
> http://jakarta.apache.org/log4j/docs/critique.html
>
> If you agree with its contents, you are encouraged to send your
> own comments to
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> Thanks, Ceki
>
> >Delivered-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Date: Tue, 12 Jun 2001 18:35:16 -0700 (PDT)
> >From: Ellis Teer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: JSR47 vs. log4j
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >To whom it may concern,
> >
> >I feel that the differences between log4j and the JSR47 API
> outlined at the
> >following URL are significant.
> >
> >http://jakarta.apache.org/log4j/docs/critique.html
> >
> >I also feel, that rather than reinventing the wheel the JSR47
> group should
> >incorporate the log4j API rather than recreating it. The
> standards put forth
> >by the JSR group will eventually replace any similarly
> functioning external API
> >due to its incorporation into the JDK. For the number of people
> who already
> >use log4j, such as myself, it feels that Sun by way of including
> this new API
> >in the JDK is forcing users of log4j to switch. I understand
> that there are
> >licensing issues but I suspect Ceki would be accommodating in
> this regard.
> >
> >In addition, by incorporating such projects into the API rather
> than recreating
> >them from scratch I believe Sun will promote more projects like
> these to move
> >forward rather than possibly dissuading programmers from
> creating new API's for
> >fear that their work will become useless by Sun's recreation of
> their features
> >in the next JDK.
> >
> >I point to the success of Tomcat as an example.
> >
> >Sincerely,
> >
> >-Ellis Teer
>
>
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