Has anybody considered or written an AppletConfigurator? I imagine it would be like a simple mix between BasicConfigurator and PropertyConfigurator, called like this: public class MyApplet extends Applet { public void init() { AppletConfigurator.configure( this ); } } The configuration properties would be much simpler, as applets generally need fewer options, and we could remove the reflection requirement (so it'll run on Netscape 4.x). Applet parameters would override anything specified in a configuration file, although maybe this should still be checked: Applet.getDocumentBase() + "log4j.properties" Thoughts? court [background: It seems that the Netscape 4.7 and earlier VMs do not support reflection, which is required by the PropertyConfigurator. This isn't just an applet signing or permissions problem.] __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Make international calls for as low as $.04/minute with Yahoo! Messenger http://phonecard.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]