Cool!  Ceki, I'd be interested in being co-speaker if you are open to that.

I think you have the order about right.  I might move interoperability above
PatternLayout changes.

-Mark

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 9:27 AM
> To: Log4J Developers List
> Subject: RE: Log4j presentation at ApacheCon 2003
> 
> 
> 
> I hadn't paid attention to the order. Here is the same but reordered.
> 
> - significant improvements in speed and memory management
> - spectacular improvements to Chainsaw
> - a new logging dimension in the form of logging domains
> - highly extensible XML configuration files
> - plugins, receivers, and watchdogs...
> - support for custom conversion words in PatternLayout
> - interoperability with log4j-like logging frameworks in 
> other languages
> - strategy based rollovers
> 
> 
> At 12:00 PM 7/22/2003 -0400, you wrote:
> 
> >Howdy,
> >I think plugins/receivers/watchdogs should be higher on the 
> list: they are 
> >more new than evolutionary, and will garner significant 
> interest.  It's 
> >nice to start the audience off with one of the most exciting 
> things... But 
> >that's just IMHO -- the presenter is king.
> >
> >Yoav Shapira
> >Millennium ChemInformatics
> >
> >
> > >-----Original Message-----
> > >From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 11:46 AM
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Subject: Log4j presentation at ApacheCon 2003
> > >
> > >
> > >Here is a draft of my log4j presentation abstract for 
> ApacheCon 2003.
> > >
> > >
> > >What is new in log4j version 1.3?
> > >=================================
> > >
> > >Log4j is a Java logging framework affiliated with the 
> Apache Software
> > >foundation.  By some estimations one million Java 
> developers use log4j
> > >regularly, ranking it as one of the most popular Java 
> projects of the ASF.
> > >
> > >Log4j version 1.3 (to be released) will bring many new useful
> > >enhancements.
> > >
> > >These include:
> > >
> > >- significant improvements in speed and memory management
> > >- spectacular enhancements to Chainsaw
> > >- highly extensible XML configuration files
> > >- support for custom conversion words in PatternLayout
> > >- a new logging dimension in the form of logging domains
> > >- plugins, receivers, and watchdogs...
> > >- interoperability with log4j-like logging frameworks in 
> other languages
> > >- strategy based rollovers
> > >
> > >This will first quickly introduce log4j and proceed to 
> discuss each of
> > >the aforementioned improvements in some detail.
> > >
> > >
> > >Comments/Suggestions?
> > >
> > >
> > >--
> > >Ceki  For log4j documentation consider "The complete log4j manual"
> > >       ISBN: 2970036908  http://www.qos.ch/shop/products/clm_t.jsp
> > >
> > >
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