Howdy, I'm not a big fan of commons-logging: I agree it's nice in theory but not at all in practice. However, its usage appears to be increasing rather than decreasing. The tomcat 5 branch is much more heavily dependent on commons-logging than the tomcat 4 branch ;(
Yoav Shapira Millennium ChemInformatics >-----Original Message----- >From: Paul Smith [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] >Sent: Thursday, December 11, 2003 8:00 PM >To: Log4J Developers List >Subject: RE: commons-logging (was [PROPOSAL] Logging services top >levelproject) > >On Fri, 2003-12-12 at 11:45, Sullivan, Sean C - MWT wrote: >> Link 1) http://radio.weblogs.com/0122027/2003/08/15.html >> > >What is interesting about this first link is the original veto to have a >runtime dependency on log4j. As a component developer I can sympathise >with the concept of trying to minimise external dependancies, but for >the life of me I can't work out the decision to then create >commons-logging. The component still depends on something, whether it >be log4j or commons-logging. If you want to use JDK1.4 logging, well >then you have a runtime dependancy on JDK1.4... > >What I think they probably really wanted is a pre-processor to remove >logging statements and be able to ship a dependancy free component (but >without any logging) and one with a dependancy on log4j. > >It may have also stemmed from previous versions of log4j being a little >weighty file size wise, but this has since been addressed with the >"micro" bundle of log4j. > >Be _really_ nice if Tomcat dropped commons-logging in favour of just >using log4j, I believe it would remove a few common headaches. > >Paul Smith > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] This e-mail, including any attachments, is a confidential business communication, and may contain information that is confidential, proprietary and/or privileged. This e-mail is intended only for the individual(s) to whom it is addressed, and may not be saved, copied, printed, disclosed or used by anyone else. If you are not the(an) intended recipient, please immediately delete this e-mail from your computer system and notify the sender. Thank you. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]