Hi,
-1 on moving to JIRA, for reasons discussed at length on various lists,
especially [EMAIL PROTECTED]  My reasons are only slightly about technical
merit: even if JIRA is superior, it is only slightly so.  My reasons are more
with the purpose of the ASF, and using a commercial piece of software when a
good free alternative exists.  I know JIRA is free for OSS use, but not for
other use, and we're giving them much much more in publicity/marketing value
then they're giving us in technical value.  

This is just a brief summary -- if you're curious for at-length explanations
and discussions of the above reasoning, check out the [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailing
list archives from about 2 months ago.  If all the other committers feel really
strongly about JIRA, then in a formal vote I suppose I'd change to a -0 so as
not to prevent the move by myself.

As for daily reports: not only are they easy to generate as email to the list
from Bugzilla, but we used to have them.  They seem to have gone away, maybe as
part of the domain move to logging.apache.org.

Yoav Shapira http://www.yoavshapira.com

--- Paul Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> I put a proposal to move log4j over to JIRA a while back, but it did not 
> seem to go down well.  We've been using JIRA here at work for a while 
> now, and I get so frustrated with any Bugzilla I have to deal with now.
> 
> But I'll support whatever this community wants.  I understand that it is 
> a distraction from log4j work (and frankly I don't have a lot of time 
> for that at the moment), but I think moving to JIRA is a better long 
> term move for the community.
> 
> cheers,
> 
> Paul Smith
> 
> Curt Arnold wrote:
> 
> >
> > On Dec 14, 2004, at 7:27 PM, Andy McBride wrote:
> >
> >> Do all apache projects use this bugzilla?  I know its very 
> >> functional  but... give me a nice jira interface anyday (free for 
> >> open-source  projects I believe).
> >> If anyone has any info on getting a simple summary report out of  
> >> bugzilla (preferably automatic by email) it would be good.
> >>
> >
> > The Apache JIRA server is at http://nagoya.apache.org/jira and is 
> > used  by log4cxx among others.
> >
> > Other projects appear to have a scheduled job that generates a weekly  
> > open bug report and mails to the mailing list.  See  
> > http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg? 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]&msgId=1144762 for an example.
> >
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