On Jul 22, 2005, at 6:36 PM, Yoav Shapira wrote:

Hi,
I think we're being a little conservative: call the next one a beta, and hopefully we'll get more user testing and feedback ;) But either way a new
build is welcome.

As long as beta does not imply that the API is frozen, I'd be willing to call it that. Especially if we included a list of things that were likely to change. However, there are a lot of new and changed API that should be reviewed before locking it down.

It does need a vote and the PMC needs to be the final arbiter of what Logging Services releases, but I don't see why we can't do concurrent log4j-dev and PMC votes until we can streamline the bylaws. Announce the vote on both the PMC list and the log4j-dev list and have all voting on the log4j-dev list, count all the votes from the log4j- committers and then all the votes from the PMC members. Hard to imagine a scenario where they'd differ.

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