Paul Smith wrote:

I guess what I was thinking was an incremental approach in 1.3 that does not break backwards compatibility. [I'd think that would be a better use of time/energy than the Priority vs. Level and Category vs. Logger mess...]

I'm against requiring Java 5 for log4j 1.3.  2.0 though is fine.

I was never suggesting requiring it -- only leveraging it where possible. [I'm not *that* self-centered.]

Originally log4j 1.3 was going to only require JDK 1.2! But we've taken so long that I think we should probably revisit what we will require. Even JDK 1.3 is getting long in the tooth.

I think we need to get a discussion going as to finalizing what our plans are for 1.3, because we're just drifting at the moment.

I started writing loads of code against 1.2.x about a year ago expecting that I'd get to upgrade to a 1.3 "final" in a few months this entire time. From where I sit it certainly seems like 1.3 is drifting -- there haven't been any clear signs of progress to those primarily focused on 1.2 in that time.

As an aside, Jess be reminded that a lot of Apache folks are at ApacheCon soon, so don't take it personally if there is a quiet response at the mometn. (I'm in Australia, wishing I was at ApacheCon.. :( )

I'm not taking it personally. If I was as blunt as I am and took things personally I'd be in a real sorry state most of the time.

Thanks for pointing out that folk are busy with ApacheCon, however, as I really was worried that the log4j development community was this sleepy that loud, obnoxious raising of serious issues didn't stir too much response or immediate action. Putting this in context with ApacheCon put a bit more hopeful spin on things...

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Jess Holle

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