There is one thing I haven't seen mentioned in this thread yet that I
wasn't going to offer up but after seeing this comment, perhaps I
should...

<quote>
> namely the maintenance effort to keep an up to date pom.xml (or
> project.xml, which may be the more standard name IIRC, but it doesn't
> matter much).
</quote>

At first pass reading this I thought "you're right, the maven project
file name doesn't matter much."  However, the mroe I think about it
may be beneficial to point out that I believe I hear Curt discussing
usage of Maven2 while others have shared anecdotes and experiences
from past usage of Maven1 (M2 standardizes on "pom.xml" while M1
primarily used "project.xml").   I suggest a look at the Maven2 "for
maven1 users" page for a discussion of what has changed (lots!) and
why in the Maven project.

http://maven.apache.org/maven1.html


Just two-cents from a list lurker and log4j user,



Scott Heaberlin



On 12/16/05, Yoav Shapira <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
> My take on it is same as before: it's a nice tool, has some cool
> features.  But it's only worth pursuing if the benefits outweigh the
> costs, namely the maintenance effort to keep an up to date pom.xml (or
> project.xml, which may be the more standard name IIRC, but it doesn't
> matter much).
>
> I don't think it can replace Ant is the primary build mechanism for
> log4j, because so many more people use Ant when compared to Maven.  I
> also think, as you pointed out, that logging-site should be tagged
> with every release: be it a CVS or SVN tag, that's a separate to-do
> item not related to the Ant or Maven discussion.  But for
> documentation, sure, maybe it's nice: FWIW, I like Forrest at least as
> much as Maven.
>
> One good thing to ask ourselves is: is this really the itch to
> scratch?  Have users been complaining about the current documentation?
>  Or is our time better spent on getting log4j 1.3 backwards-compatible
> and out-the-door already?
>
> Yoav
>
> On 12/16/05, Curt Arnold <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Explored a little more and committed some additional enhancements.  A
> > sample of the generated documentation from Maven can be viewed at
> > http://people.apache.org/~carnold/log4j_mvn/maven-reports.html.
> > There are many known issues: several of the links point to non-
> > existent documents, the checkstyle report throws an exception so it
> > is suppressed and while the Javadocs are generated, the apidocs/
> > index.html page is empty (apidocs/overview-summary.html can be used
> > to see the generated Javadocs).  However, it looks pretty good for
> > the amount of time put into it.   Will post a message on maven-users
> > to see if I can get any help in extending it.
> >
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> Yoav Shapira
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> MIT Sloan School of Management
> Cambridge, MA, USA
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