The ability to run the latest version of Chainsaw via Web Start is a service our users have come to expect and value.
Taking away this service due to deployment/infrastructure issues isn't an answer. If we need to, let's talk to infra@ and figure out a way to deal with this. I understand ASF officially signing Chainsaw is a complicated issue, but it would be a disservice to our users to take this away - let's do the hard work of working through it. (I know I'm making assumptions that our users take advantage of this feature. I know I do.) Scott Deboy -----Original Message----- From: Curt Arnold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 21, 2007 12:36 PM To: Log4J Developers List Subject: Re: Receivers and customizing the artifact output On Aug 20, 2007, at 10:56 PM, Paul Smith wrote: > I had a crack at working out how to create 2 separate artifacts for > the log4j-receivers module, 1 for the primary artifact (as current) > and one a chainsaw-specific artifact that excludes the JMS, DB and > VFS-based Receivers. This is needed for the Webstart version > because of the difference in classloaders being used. > Could you refresh me on the technical issue that you are trying to work around? I looked in the archives and it didn't jump out at me. > I found this thread extremely useful and promising: > > http://www.mail-archive.com/[EMAIL PROTECTED]/msg68479.html > > Which looked like it would work a treat, but unfortunately I hit > this issue with the maven-jar-plugin: > >> http://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MJAR-30 > > Given the 2nd artifact is really 'everything but these ones > excluded' without the exclude feature we're a bit stuffed. > > I may have to resort to an antrun plugin usage to get what we > need. The build-helper plugin can still help us here (slight pun > intended). > > Just thought I'd update everyone with where I'm at. > > cheers, > > Paul > It still seems to me that Webstart doesn't align well with the ASF release infrastructure. I don't see a way for us to leverage the ASF web of trust of GPG signatures to verify a signed jar and the current Webstart version of Chainsaw isn't served through the mirrorred distribution server and not archived. I also could not find a release vote in the archives. I'm fairly uncomfortable with what we have out there and would like to have a formal release. There is nothing preventing a single individual or organization repackaging a Chainsaw release for use with Webstart, but it seems problematic as an official release mechanism. Could we have a tool/ script in the tarball/zip release that allows an individual or organization to sign the jars with their signature to support private webstart deployments? So we would send up with a tarball and zip that would: a) Could be run double clicking on the chainsaw jar (where supported) or by "java -jar apache-chainsaw-2.0.jar"). b) Could be run on Mac OS/X platforms by clicking on Chainsaw.app c) Could be jarsigned by running some script and then copied to a web server for deployment. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]