On May 31, 2010, at 7:41 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:

> I just digged a little bit around the code. Besides the projects
> mentioned below there is ralphs stuff. How is it planned to put it all
> together?
> 

You think we have a plan?

Ralph and I are going in two different, but hopefully eventually complementary 
directions.

My tack was to start with the backend classes like layouts and appenders and 
provide a framework which makes them independent of the logging API in use and 
designed for concurrency.  I started in 2007 and 2008 with the pattern layout.  
That went dormant due to other demands and lack of participation.  There were a 
lot of ideas that I liked that were either in the code or in the code that I 
was going to write next and I've been trying to mine the old project and fill 
in gaps that had been rattling around in my mind to hopefully come up with 
something reasonably fleshed out.

The approach with commons-logging and SLF4J was to unify on the API.  I was 
taking the approach of enabling unification at the back end, basically, have 
appenders that can process logging events originating from multiple API's.

Once the back end classes were established, they could be plugged into the 
existing frameworks for testing and we could work on establishing a client 
facing API designed with the same principles.

Ralph's approach has been broader, trying to design the whole framework 
simultaneously.


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