OK, well, that a fine POV to have. It would be nice to document that.

If we use the MVC metaphore, the log data (in a file for example) is the
model.

So let's say I do my own Logger wrapper that does l10n, I still get the log
levels in English.

What I was referring to is to l10n Log4J2 itself, but apps would have to do
their own.

That would address Olivier's wish.

Gary

On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 6:52 PM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>wrote:

> This is actually a sore point with me.   It is my opinion that l10n
> doesn't belong in the logging framework itself. That should be done in the
> UI where the user is viewing the messages. If you are going to do that then
> you should log a Message with a Message Id and the parameters and the
> entire LogEvent with the Message should be stored in the target repository.
>  Obviously a lot of people seem to disagree with me on this one.
>
> Ralph
>
>
>
> On Oct 30, 2012, at 2:44 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:
>
> This brings up the larger topic of i18n.
>
> Should we have a message properties file where folks can say "Level.WARN =
> WARNING"?
> Eventually, if desired, other messages can be added.
>
> Gary
>
> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 5:16 PM, Ralph Goers 
> <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>wrote:
>
>> Ahh. Good question.
>>
>> I was looking at LevelPatternConverter. It would be relatively trivial to
>> allow it to accept options so that you could specify  %p{WARN=Warning,
>> ERROR=Error,FATAL=Critical}
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>>
>> On Oct 30, 2012, at 2:10 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:
>>
>> Do you want to use log4j 1.2.x or 2.0 (beta)?
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 5:05 PM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>>> Hm, my goal is to use slf4j as api with log4j2.
>>> I would prefer only provide a configuration file and to not have
>>> specific log4j code introduced.
>>>
>>> 2012/10/30 Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>:
>>> > Hm... in a custom layout I think...
>>> >
>>> > Gary
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 2:38 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com>
>>> > wrote:
>>> >>
>>> >> In 1.2, maybe use reflection?
>>> >>
>>> >> In 2.0, I wonder if we should allow that to be changed and how. In
>>> 2.0,
>>> >> Level is an enum, not a class...
>>> >>
>>> >> Gary
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 2:19 PM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Hi,
>>> >>> Is there any way to change the string use for level ?
>>> >>> I'd like to use WARNING rather than WARN
>>> >>>
>>> >>> Thanks
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