The Fast*Appenders don't depend on the disruptor. Sorry for the confusion. 

I'll see what I can do this weekend regarding submitting a patch for the merge. 
Just fyi, some of the patches I submitted (LOG4J2-199, LOG4J2-203 and 
LOG4J2-207) modify files in the log4j-async module. I'm not sure how easy it is 
to apply those after the log4j-async module is gone. 

Sent from my iPhone

On 2013/04/13, at 4:16, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:

> Core has optional dependencies on Jackson (for JSON configuration), Jansi 
> (Windows color support), javax.mail (SMTP appender) and geronimo-jms (JMS 
> appender). These should be called out on the core page.  All the others are 
> test dependencies. 
> 
> What is different? Maybe nothing. IMO, all the "critical" things a user 
> expects should be available without any dependencies.  For example, I would 
> hate to have either the FileAppender or RollingFileAppender dependent on 
> anything (I'm not sure the Fast versions are).  
> 
> I'd be a lot happier if Maven had a way to say "this component is optional 
> but if you are using this feature I will include it". IOW, Log4j provides an 
> AsyncLogger feature and project y specifies that it requires that feature.  
> I've wanted a feature like that for years but have never had the time to 
> implement it, nor can it really be implemented without changing the schema 
> for the pom.
> 
> Ralph
> 
> 
> On Apr 12, 2013, at 11:53 AM, Scott Deboy wrote:
> 
>> 
>> This link says there are no dependencies :)  Something to fix there?
>> 
>> http://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/dependencies.html
>> 
>> Of course, the convergence link shows dependencies:
>> 
>> http://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/dependency-convergence.html
>> 
>> I can't tell which ones are required at runtime for a minimal configuration 
>> - anything?  
>> 
>> If the other dependencies listed are optional at runtime, but available in 
>> core, why would this one be different?
>> 
>> Scott
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 11:45 AM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> 
>> wrote:
>>> I'm not sure what you mean, but the guideline I use as to whether something 
>>> belongs in core is what dependencies it requires. The functionality it 
>>> provides is secondary to me.  My preference is for the Log4j API & core to 
>>> have as few dependencies as possible.  
>>> 
>>> Ralph
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On Apr 12, 2013, at 9:38 AM, Scott Deboy wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I'd like to avoid what we had with log4j 1.x - the receivers/companions 
>>>> mess.  Whether or something belongs in core or not is a fuzzy judgment 
>>>> call sometimes.  If possible, I would like to see as much as possible 
>>>> included in a single 'release' (that includes 'receivers/companions' if 
>>>> they ever are rewritten for log4j2).
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2013 at 9:30 AM, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> It probably should be done anyway, but the various components would also 
>>>>> need to check for the presence of the disruptor and log a warning if it 
>>>>> isn't there (I believe we do this for Jansi and Jackson) as the disruptor 
>>>>> would have to be an optional dependency.  In the async package it can be 
>>>>> non-optional so this is less important for anyone using Maven.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ralph
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 12, 2013, at 9:23 AM, Ralph Goers wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Because it has a dependency on the Disruptor, which Remko has said may 
>>>>>> not work on all JDKs
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 12, 2013, at 8:23 AM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Why not more log4j-async into the core?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>> 
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