Yes, you should include whatever is needed to make them unique. In addition, if 
they contain something like a timeout value that you want to be dynamically 
updatable then that needs to be included too.

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On Apr 29, 2013, at 6:35 AM, Nicholas Williams <[email protected]> 
wrote:

> *so I should include the connection information in my
> _DatabaseManagers' names...
> 
> Sent from my iPhone, so please forgive brief replies and frequent typos
> 
> On Apr 29, 2013, at 8:34, Nicholas Williams
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>> Oh! That makes sense! So I should include the connection information
>> in my FileManager's name so that a new one gets created if the
>> connection information changes. Right?
>> 
>> Nick
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone, so please forgive brief replies and frequent typos
>> 
>> On Apr 29, 2013, at 8:30, Ralph Goers <[email protected]> wrote:
>> 
>>> The FileManager includes the file name in its name. Likewise the 
>>> SocketManager would include the host & port.  So if the file name is 
>>> changed the manager will be stopped.
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> On Apr 28, 2013, at 10:53 PM, Nick Williams <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Okay. So consider this scenario: Someone has the FileAppender configured 
>>>> to write to file X. They change the configuration to write to file Y. 
>>>> Since the FileManager already exists writing to file X, the FileManager 
>>>> won't be stopped. Its use count will increase to 2 and the 
>>>> newly-configured FileAppender will use it as well. The old FileAppender 
>>>> will stop and the FileManager's use count will decrease back to 1, but 
>>>> it's being used by the new FileAppender. The newly configured FileAppender 
>>>> is still writing to file X, even though the configuration says File Y, 
>>>> because the FileManager hasn't been reloaded.
>>>> 
>>>> Do I understand that incorrectly? Am I missing something?
>>>> 
>>>> Nick
>>>> 
>>>> On Apr 29, 2013, at 12:47 AM, Ralph Goers wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> When a reconfiguration takes place a new configuration is first created. 
>>>>> All the Filters, Appenders, etc named in the configuration will be 
>>>>> created.  However, when the Appender calls getManager() it may find that 
>>>>> one already exists with the name it is searching for. If so, that 
>>>>> manager's use count will be incremented and the new Appender will 
>>>>> reference it.  Then the old configuration is stopped. During this time 
>>>>> Appenders will call the release method on the manager and the manager's 
>>>>> use count will be decremented.  A manager doesn't actually stop until its 
>>>>> use count is decremented to 0.  This means database connections, sockets, 
>>>>> streams, etc will all continue on into the new Appenders.  If the new 
>>>>> configuration no longer has a particular appender then the use count on 
>>>>> that manager will decrement to zero and it will be stopped.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ralph
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 28, 2013, at 9:52 PM, Nick Williams wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> Guys,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I'm almost ready to submit a patch for JDBC/JPA/MongoDB/CouchDB, but I'd 
>>>>>> like a little bit of instruction on something. I want to make sure I'm 
>>>>>> understanding things correctly, because I'm getting ... strange ... 
>>>>>> results when reloading configuration in between unit tests.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> So, if you have an Appender that has a Manager, and than appender has 
>>>>>> written events, and LoggerContext.reconfigure() is called, what is done 
>>>>>> with the existing Appender and Manager instances? Basically, can someone 
>>>>>> explain this whole lifecycle? I want to make sure I'm using this pattern 
>>>>>> right.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Nick
>>>>> 
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