Yes, this is all good stuff, JPA 2.1 it is but:

- Be aware that this Hibernate 4.3-beta1 bug might trip you up:
https://hibernate.atlassian.net/browse/HHH-8111
- There is a Hibernate 4.3-beta2 bug that causes Java 7 to be required to
run certain kind of code, this should be fixed in the next beta.

Gary




On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 10:49 AM, Nick Williams <
[email protected]> wrote:

> If it would in theory work, we wouldn't actually need separate jpa20 and
> jpa21 packages, we could just create two entities, one for JPA 2.0 and one
> for JPA 2.1. My concern is that JPA providers scan the class path looking
> for entity annotations, and when a JPA 2.0 provider caused any of the
> @Convert-annotated classes to be loaded by the class loader, a
> NoClassDefFoundError would occur.
>
> Additionally, in order to achieve this we would need the JPA 2.1 spec on
> the class path during compile, and it would be impossible to prevent
> developers from accidentally using 2.1 API features in parts that we
> intended to use 2.0 API features only.
>
> The alternative would be to have "yet another jar" by moving the JPA
> appenders into separate modules ... one for JPA 2.0 and one for JPA 2.1. I
> don't think anyone here really likes that idea.
>
> No, I think we have to pick one and stick with it. Like I said, by the
> time Log4j 2 is released JPA 2.1 and a non-beta Hibernate 4.3 will be
> generally available (for that matter, Hibernate 5 is supposed to be out by
> the end of this year). Anyone who adopts Log4j 2 and wants to use the JPA
> Appender within 6-9 months of Log4j 2 release are very early adopters who
> most likely will also adopt JPA 2.1 early or will be willing to. By the
> time Log4j 2 turns a year old, JPA 2.1 will be the norm and JPA-next will
> be in progress.
>
> Also, important note I just found: Any Hibernate versions < 4.0 are
> considered archived and not supported. This means that for any Hibernate
> users using supported Hibernate versions (4.0+), the upgrade to JPA 2.1
> will be a minor upgrade. No major upgrades required. I think that makes
> this much more palatable.
>
> Nick
>
>
> On May 6, 2013, at 9:27 AM, Gary Gregory wrote:
>
> Nice write up. I'm fine relying on JPA 2.0 as the minimum, I'm not so sure
> about 2.1; it is barely off the press and there is no released
> implementation yet, just a beta; Hibernate 4.3-beta2 just came out a couple
> of days ago.
>
> What about a jpa20 and jpa21 package?
>
> Gary
>
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 8:50 AM, Nick Williams <
> [email protected]> wrote:
>
>> As I wait on the beta6 release process to complete so that Ralph can
>> commit my first pass at the JDBC, JPA, and NoSQL Appenders, I wanted to
>> start a discussion about the JPA appender and JPA 2.1. (For reference, you
>> can see the new feature request here [1], and there is a patch attached to
>> that feature request containing my first pass at the Appenders.)
>>
>> Currently, the patch includes a JPA appender that requires JPA 2.0.
>> Hibernate isn't the only JPA provider out there, but since it's the most
>> popular I'll use it as an example here. Hibernate 3.5.0 or higher is
>> required for JPA 2.0 support. JPA 1 had a major drawback that caused it to
>> receive a lot of criticism from the community (including me): There was no
>> way to specify custom type converters, so if you had some kind of special
>> type (like a StackTraceElement, or a Marker, or a Message) that you wanted
>> to support you *had* to use a provider-proprietary API to do it, or
>> convert the value manually within the getter and setter. Many (again,
>> including me) were outraged when JPA 2.0 came out and it STILL did not have
>> support for custom types.
>>
>> So, when I created the JPA appender I created an abstract class
>> implementing LogEvent called LogEventWrapperEntity. This class provides
>> no-op setters to complement all of the getters defined in the interface
>> (because JPA requires setters, but we don't need them because log events
>> will be write-only). However, the end-user MUST implement ALL of the
>> getters specified in the LogEvent interface, because how these values are
>> converted will depend on which provider they use. I'm not 100% happy with
>> that, but it works.
>>
>> Enter JPA 2.1, whose final draft was approved two weeks ago and will be
>> released final literally any day now, and finally there is a way to specify
>> custom converters without depending on provider-specific APIs
>> (@javax.persistence.Convert and javax.persistence.AttributeConverter).
>> Using these, I could create AttributeConverters for StackTraceElement,
>> Throwable, Message, Marker, Level, Map<String, String>,
>> and ThreadContext.ContextStack. I could then create a more complete entity
>> with all of the getters already defined using default column names. Then,
>> if someone wanted to change one or more column names, they would only need
>> to override the getters whose column names they wanted to change, and they
>> wouldn't have to worry about type conversion. It would make using the JPA
>> Appender MUCH easier.
>>
>> Since JPA 2.1 is a minor version, this shouldn't so much be a problem,
>> except that people using Hibernate would need to upgrade to 4.3.0 or higher
>> ... a major upgrade if they're still on 3.5-3.7, but only a minor upgrade
>> if they're on 4.0+ already. Hibernate 4.3.0 is currently in beta but should
>> release soon, almost assuredly before Log4j 2 does. I know in both of my
>> $work environments we have a need for many custom converters and will be
>> upgrading ASAP when 4.3.0 comes out.
>>
>> So, what do you think? Which of these options do you prefer?
>>
>> 1) A harder-to-use JPA Appender that is more forgiving about which JPA
>> provider version you use, or
>> 2) A much easier-to-use JPA Appender that requires the absolute latest
>> JPA provider version?
>>
>> I lean towards 2. My thoughts are that by the time Log4j 2 becomes widely
>> used JPA 2.1 providers will be the norm, not brand new like they are now.
>> My bets are that the few people that will be using the JPA Appender early
>> on are likely already early adopters who will already be on JPA 2.1 or
>> don't mind upgrading.
>>
>> Nick
>>
>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-229
>>
>
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