I should clarify that this TED talk is the reason I don't like the idea of a 
veto. 

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On 2013/05/09, at 10:00, Remko Popma <rem...@yahoo.com> wrote:

> One of the reddit founders did an interesting (and short) TED talk on this. 
> Search for "ted talk reddit mister splashy pants". 
> 
> 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On 2013/05/09, at 9:11, Nick Williams <nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote:
> 
>> Agreed. Collect votes from as many sources as possible. I DO think the PMC 
>> and/or key devs should be able to veto, however ... just in case.
>> 
>> Nick
>> 
>> On May 8, 2013, at 6:57 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:
>> 
>>> We can mail to the dev and user list (and pmc too), and use social media. 
>>> We can also update the log4j 2 beta web site with the announcement. 
>>> 
>>> Gary
>>> 
>>> On May 8, 2013, at 19:34, Remko Popma <rem...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Christian,
>>>> 
>>>> That is a great idea!
>>>> Not just to get a nice new logo, but also (more important imho) to attract 
>>>> attention to the new 2.0 version. Marketing yay!
>>>> 
>>>> How do you want to do this?
>>>> Do we pick from the submissions, or do we have a second round where people 
>>>> vote for their favorite?
>>>> 
>>>> I would like the second one. Not that I don't have great taste (haha - 
>>>> that's my wife laughing, I was serious), but it is a chance to get even 
>>>> more people involved and thus attract even more attention.
>>>> 
>>>> -Remko
>>>> 
>>>> From: Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
>>>> To: Log4J Developers List <log4j-dev@logging.apache.org> 
>>>> Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 6:10 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: Logo contest?
>>>> 
>>>> For some reason I picture two guys with their arms outstretched standing 
>>>> on a spinning log in a body of water.... ;-)
>>>> 
>>>> Hopefully, most of you will understand that.  Probably not - In the 
>>>> northwest U.S. they have lumberjack contests where the guy who can stay on 
>>>> the log longest wins.
>>>> 
>>>> Ralph
>>>> 
>>>> On May 8, 2013, at 2:02 PM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> > I am sorry to say that I never liked the log4j logo. I always found it
>>>> > 100% ugly.
>>>> > Recently somebody else said, he doesn't know what a green cup has to
>>>> > do with logging. I agree with him.
>>>> > 
>>>> > Now the log4j 1.x logo is a green cup. No doubt about it.
>>>> > 
>>>> > But log4j 2.x is different. In my opinion we should get the word out
>>>> > and have some kind of logo contest. I am willing to assist and lead,
>>>> > once the current discussion on other places calm down.
>>>> > 
>>>> > My hope is, we would release the first stable version of log4j 2.x
>>>> > with a new logo. We are a fresh team, we have a new atmosphere and
>>>> > log4j 2.x is somewhat great. I believe we simply need a logo which
>>>> > expresses all that.
>>>> > 
>>>> > Any thoughts around this?
>>>> > 
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