The roles are still there in the pom. Do we still need them? I don't mind removing them.
________________________________ From: Nick Williams <nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> To: Log4J Developers List <log4j-dev@logging.apache.org> Sent: Tuesday, May 14, 2013 9:38 AM Subject: Re: Site Ideas Item #4 is now done as well. Nick On May 12, 2013, at 6:18 AM, Ralph Goers wrote: As for attribution, not really. The only place attribution really shows up is in svn. If someone really wants to know who wrote a piece of code they will just look at its history. > > >Remember, the ASF is about community. As a committer you get just as much >credit (or blame) for all the work I have done as I do. With attribution what >you will find is people start emailing you in private off the lists. This has >happened to me quite a bit over the last few years. We don't want that as it >doesn't serve the whole community. That said, people will still know that you >are the async expert when you are the main person answering questions and >fixing issues related to it. > >Ralph > >On May 12, 2013, at 1:59 AM, Remko Popma <rem...@yahoo.com> wrote: > > >1. Agree this looks funny. >>What I found interesting is that (based on Ralph's link) the developers >>originally added the time zone in the Actual Time column, intentionally >>showing local time zone of the viewer. Ironically the intention was to avoid >>confusion. I'm sure there's a lesson in there somewhere. :-) >> >> >>2. All right then, remove the roles. Is there a more acceptable way to get >>attribution for the Async Loggers somewhere on the site? >> >> >>3. I experimented with it but switching on the pic also adds another column >>with the pic URL. (Not very useful IMHO. Shall we file another bug/feature >>request with the maven team? "Show pic, without adding pic URL column".) >> >>4. Sounds good. >> >> >> >>Sent from my iPhone >> >>On 2013/05/12, at 9:46, Ralph Goers <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote: >> >> >>Item one >>> >>> >>>This makes no sense to me but see https://jira.codehaus.org/browse/MPIR-68 >>> >>> >>>Item two >>> >>> >>>Normally I would expect the "Roles" to contain "PMC Member", "Committer" or >>>"Contributor", not the parts of the project individuals work on. >>> >>> >>>Item three >>> >>> >>>I don't care one way or the other about images. If you want to see what I >>>look like you can just go to images.google.com and search on my name. You >>>should find two photos; one in a yellow shirt that is several years old from >>>the ApacheCon in Austin, TX and a recent photo from a Flume meetup. >>> >>> >>>Item four >>> >>> >>>I have no problem with the suggestion you are making. >>> >>> >>>Ralph >>> >>> >>> >>>On May 11, 2013, at 4:13 PM, Nick Williams wrote: >>> >>>Guys, >>>> >>>> >>>>There are a couple of things about the site that have been bugging me. I >>>>wanted to run some ideas by you and see what you think. Since I can commit >>>>now, I can take care of them once we come to a consensus. :-) >>>> >>>> >>>>-- One -- >>>>On the "Project Team" pages, the "Actual Time" column is wrong for most of >>>>us. For those of us in the United States, it's one hour behind. Only for >>>>Remko is it right. For example, at 17:38:55 Central Time, here is what it >>>>said for all of us: >>>> >>>> >>>>Ralph: Sat May 11 2013 14:38:55 GMT-0500 (CDT) (it's actually 15:38 there) >>>>Gary: Sat May 11 2013 17:38:55 GMT-0500 (CDT) (it's actually 18:38 there) >>>>Scott: Sat May 11 2013 14:38:55 GMT-0500 (CDT) (it's actually 15:38 there) >>>>Remko: Sun May 12 2013 07:38:55 GMT-0500 (CDT) (the time is correct) >>>>Me: Sat May 11 2013 16:38:55 GMT-0500 (CDT) (it's actually 17:38 here) >>>> >>>> >>>>Not only is the time wrong for four of us, but they ALL say GMT-0500 (CDT), >>>>which is obviously incorrect for all of us except me. >>>> >>>> >>>>I did some looking around at other Maven-generated sites, and the problem >>>>seems to be the same on all of them. Wrong for people on Daylight Savings >>>>Time, and always displaying the wrong time zone for everyone: >>>> >>>> >>>>http://maven.apache.org/team-list.html >>>>http://displaytag.sourceforge.net/11/team-list.html >>>> >>>> >>>>This appears to be a problem with the Maven plugin itself, not with our >>>>site. The time appears to be calculated dynamically using JavaScript after >>>>the page loads. Is anyone aware of any bug reports anywhere concerning this >>>>issue? If not, I'll file a bug. >>>> >>>> >>>>-- Two -- >>>>On the "Project Team" pages, I suggest we remove the Roles column. Remko is >>>>the only one with any data in that column, and I think that makes it look >>>>like he doesn't contribute as much as the rest of us. Remko has contributed >>>>more than just what's listed in that column. Is everyone okay with removing >>>>that column? >>>> >>>> >>>>-- Three -- >>>>On the "Project Team" pages, none of us have images. I suggest we either >>>>add images for all of us or remove the column (as it's taking up >>>>unnecessary space). Remko already has an image URL in the POM, but it's >>>>commented out. I'm all for images, personally, but what do y'all think? >>>> >>>> >>>>-- Four -- >>>>The first item I visited the Log4j2 site, the "Download" and "Build and >>>>Install" links confused me. The Download page contained links to download >>>>the assembly JAR ... makes sense. But no Maven information. The "Build and >>>>Install" page contained Maven information, which was counter-intuitive, but >>>>worse the Maven information was BELOW information about building and >>>>installing, so you don't actually see it unless you scroll down. "Using >>>>Log4j on your classpath" is also on the "Build and Install" page, but it >>>>makes more sense (to me) on the "Download" page, as you only need that >>>>information if you're manually downloading the binaries. >>>> >>>> >>>>My suggestion: >>>> >>>> >>>>- "Download" contains what it does now plug "Using Log4j on your classpath" >>>>(moved from the "Build and Install" page). >>>>- New page "Maven and Ivy" contains all of the Maven and Ivy information >>>>from the "Build and Install" page. >>>>- "Build and Install" gets renamed to "Build" and contains only information >>>>about building Log4j >>>> >>>> >>>>Thoughts? >>>> >>>> >>>>Nick >>>
