Is there any way of having a workaround for a forcerollover. ? What I was
thinking that instead of having a force roll over , I can just stop the
appender . But I have a problem like when I restart the appender I am
getting error like ,  *ERROR Attempted to append to non-started appender
dumpAppender*


If I am correct , If I reconfigure the context then I think I would be
losing my events? Is there any way that I stop and start appenders as and
when needed, of course without reconfiguring the context?

Please correct me if my understanding is wrong in any case.

-sudharma


On Tue, Jul 16, 2013 at 9:39 AM, Sudharma Puranik <
[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi Ralph,
>
> Thank you for your detailed explanation It was really helpful. Definitely
> I will go through this one
>
> -Sudharma
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 9:21 PM, Ralph Goers 
> <[email protected]>wrote:
>
>> First, yes it is probably more complicated creating Appenders in Log4j 2
>> than in Logback.  One of the differences between the two is that when
>> Logback detects changes to its configuration it first clears the existing
>> configuration before it starts to reconfigure. So while it is processing
>> the new configuration log events are being lost. Log4j 2 treats the
>> configuration as an atomic unit.  Managers are used so that OutputStreams
>> and Sockets do not have to be closed across reconfigurations if they don't
>> need to be.
>>
>> Creating a policy should be rather easy and straightforward.
>>
>> The best way to add Appenders is to create your own Configuration class,
>> either by extending one of the existing implementations or by extending
>> BaseConfiguration.  The benefit with this is when a reconfiguration occurs
>> (if you choose to support it) your appenders, etc will be recreated.  As an
>> alternative you can do
>>
>> Appender appender = createMyAppender();
>> appender.start();
>> LoggerContext ctx = (LoggerContext) LogManager.getContext(false);
>> Configuration config = ctx.getConfiguration();
>> config.addLoggerAppender(logger, appender);
>>
>> Note though, that if the configuration is modified and reloaded this
>> appender will be removed an not re-added.
>>
>> I should also point out that if you don't want the benefits using a
>> Manager you don't have to. In addition, if you only want your components to
>> be added programmatically you don't have to use the Plugin mechanism.  In
>> this case you would simply create a class that implements the Appender
>> interface.
>>
>> The request for a programmatic way to force a rollover is captured in
>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-89.  I started to
>> investigate this several months ago but didn't complete it as I was having
>> trouble figuring out how to do the rollover in a safe manner. I'd like to
>> get back to this soon as a number of people have asked about it.
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>>
>> On Jul 15, 2013, at 4:13 AM, Sudharma Puranik wrote:
>>
>> Hi Ralph,
>>
>> I have a scenario to create Appenders programmatically and so also the
>> Policies. I am finding it difficult to create each entity since Appender
>> delegates everything with RollingFileManager, and which is not hooked with
>> Appender. I have 2 questions like,
>>
>> 1. Does log4j support declarative and refrain from programmatically
>> creating the log configurations?
>> 2. Logback gives the flexibility to extend Appenders and also the
>> TriggeringPolicies with which I can customise my logging.
>>
>> Previously I had a scenario where I had to do a forceRollover in program
>> for monitoring reasons . This was easily achievable by logback by calling
>> the rollover of RollingFileAppender which is delegated to Policy.  This I
>> am unable to do with Log4j 2,  or rather I feel it is much more complex.
>>
>> Could you please help me in finding a better way, I had enough search on
>> google but couldnt find a suitable usecase.
>>
>> -Sudharma
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 8:34 AM, Sudharma Puranik <
>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> OK fine .  I will meanwhile evaluate the same as well .
>>> On 14 Jul 2013 20:52, "Ralph Goers" <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK - I can't make any promises because it is really up to the
>>>> community. But we have been saying for some time that our target was to get
>>>> a 2.0 GA release this summer.
>>>>
>>>> Ralph
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Jul 14, 2013, at 7:20 AM, Sudharma Puranik wrote:
>>>>
>>>> To be frank , I havent tested Log4j 2 rather I havent used it anytime.
>>>> I have been long working with log4j but off late we want to move to
>>>> abstract logging frameworks  and precisely native SLF4J hence shifted to
>>>> Logback but I see fewer solutions for problems and  less crowd sourcing
>>>> .Nonetheless looking at the log4j2 features and developments I am
>>>> fascinated to use it with new features which we need but we are not willing
>>>> to head because its still in beta . We are so hardly pressed with time that
>>>> we have no time for experimentation with frameworks since we are already
>>>> lagging the deadline for our beta.
>>>>
>>>> Now you have to suggest with your best experience that how
>>>> safe/efficient is using beta versions. Looking at the current usage of
>>>> log4j2 and your rapid beta releases I feel you guys are on right track and
>>>> you should be able to make it :-)
>>>>
>>>> I am very positive on log4j2 and hoping to see the stable release. I
>>>> will also definitely find some time and test log4j2.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you
>>>> -Sudharma
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 12:48 PM, Ralph Goers <
>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> We have been trying to do releases about once a month. With each new
>>>>> release it is reasonable to ask if the next release should be 2.0 or
>>>>> another beta. Have you been testing Log4j 2 and do you consider it to be 
>>>>> of
>>>>> GA quality?
>>>>>
>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>
>>>>> On Jul 13, 2013, at 10:15 PM, Sudharma Puranik wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> Hello Team,
>>>>>
>>>>> with the new beta release of log4j2 , I would like to know if there is
>>>>> going to be a stable release of log4j2 this year anytime?. We are planning
>>>>> to migrate from logback to log4j2.
>>>>>
>>>>> I had posted about the release date on SO
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://stackoverflow.com/questions/17627672/stable-release-date-for-log4j2
>>>>>
>>>>> Could you please let me know what is the planned date for this release
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -Sudharma
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
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