That's much better, as in being clear. As for whether we should allow community 
votes, I have mixed feelings, so I'm going to abstain from commenting.

Nick

On Jul 19, 2013, at 8:04 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:

> Nick thanks for the mispelling corrections.
> 
> Date: ups you are right. I was living in June. Lets extend it further
> 1 month from the date we agreed to this
> 
> What about this:
> 
>> HOW THE LOGO IS CHOSEN
>> 
>> Everybody is invited to vote. The votes of Apache Logging Committers are 
>> binding.
>> 
>> If there are more than 10 Logos submitted there will be two rounds.
>> In the first round the 10 logos with the most +1 are entering round two.
>> In the second round the logo with the most +1 will win the contest.
> 
> Is that better?
> 
> Not sure if we should allow community votes in this case or not.
> 
> Cheers
> Christian
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jul 19, 2013 at 2:53 PM, Nick Williams
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> A few corrections/suggestions inline.
>> 
>> On Jul 19, 2013, at 7:42 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:
>> 
>>> Hello,
>>> 
>>> here is a draft based on my ideas and based on the feedback i read
>>> from Gary and others.
>>> Please feel free to correct / modify / discuss it.
>>> 
>>> I already created an Jira issue, because i think we all agreed to take
>>> Jira for submissions. The plan is to use the text on the website, blog
>>> and jira issue. We also might be able to get some help from Sally
>>> 
>>> Please note, I changed the final date to 01.08. becuase the previous
>>> date is already history :-|
>>> 
>>> Cheers
>>> Christian
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Log4j 2.0 is looking for a new logo
>>> 
>>> Log4j 2 is very different to Log4j 1. Log4j 2 is more reliable
>>> and fast then its predecessor and even comparable frameworks.
>>> The team has grown after years of stagnation and there is
>>> a lot of activity on our lists. We are already seeing the
>>> first signs for a stable release on the horizon.
>>> 
>>> After 12 years it is not only time to change the version
>>> number but also time to refresh the Log4j logo.
>>> 
>>> With our new logo we want to show the java community
>> 
>> "Java," not "java."
>> 
>>> that Log4j is back.
>>> 
>>> We would like to open participation to the community
>>> to create this new logo.
>>> 
>>> HOW TO PARTICIPATE
>>> 
>>> Attach your entries to the Jira:
>>> 
>>> * https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-316
>>> 
>>> Each person can submit more than one logo.
>>> Submissions will be accepted until August 01, 2013.
>> 
>> Originally we gave them 6 weeks, now we're giving them less than two? 12 
>> days is how many days to August 1. Doesn't seem like nearly enough time to 
>> me. I'd say August 19 (one month from today, and a Monday so they have the 
>> weekend before to finish it).
>> 
>>> 
>>> The Logo must be licensed to
>> 
>> "under" instead of "to?"
>> 
>>> Apache License 2.0.
>>> If your Logo is accepted, the creator must sign an ICLA:
>>> http://www.apache.org/licenses/icla.txt
>>> 
>>> While we will accept PNG image formats for the contest,
>>> we prefer vector based formats (SVG).
>>> 
>>> Pixelbased formats produced with Gimp or Photoshop
>>> might be vectorized with free tools like Inkscape.
>>> 
>>> * http://inkscape.org
>>> 
>>> Please note that a logo should not contain too much
>> 
>> many
>> 
>>> details.
>>> 
>>> HOW THE LOGO IS CHOSEN
>>> 
>>> If more than 10 Logos are submitted, the Apache Logging committers
>>> will reduce the numbers to 10 nominees in a public vote.
>>> 
>>> When 10 Logos are left, the Apache Logging committers will
>>> select the final concept.
>> 
>> This is a little confusing. Even I'm not sure here whether this means only 
>> the committers will pick the top 10 / the winner or if there will be a vote 
>> that everyone can participate in at some point.
>> 
>>> 
>>> The majority fo the Apache Logging PMC can veto a logo.
>>> 
>>> The logo is finally accepted, when all votes are successful
>>> AND the ICLA of the logo contributor is on file.
>>> 
>>> The Log4j team
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