Good news! A Java committer has agreed to take on the commit and sponsor a 
public API replacement for getCallerClass. It sounds like there will be 
significant (even drastic) changes from my patch, but there's going to be 
/something/. *sigh*

So. Much. Work...

Nick

On Sep 1, 2013, at 3:18 AM, Nick Williams wrote:

> I have submitted my patch to add a public API for getCallerClass to the JDK 
> mailing list:
> 
> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/core-libs-dev/2013-September/020477.html
> 
> I appreciate anyone who can support it verbally on the list, but of course 
> the most critical test is whether I can get a committer to sponsor my change.
> 
> Nick
> 
> On Aug 2, 2013, at 7:59 PM, Paul Benedict wrote:
> 
>> Wow! I totally forgot about their insane numbering system. All this time, I 
>> thought version 40 was  many months in the future.
>> 
>> On Aug 2, 2013 6:34 PM, "Nick Williams" <nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> 
>> wrote:
>> I HATE their new numbering system. HATE.
>> 
>> ABHOR.
>> 
>> 7u40 comes after 7u25. So, yes, it's the next one. Set to release 
>> mid-September.
>> 
>> Nick
>> 
>> On Aug 2, 2013, at 4:59 PM, Gary Gregory wrote:
>> 
>>> On Thu, Aug 1, 2013 at 10:01 PM, Nick Williams 
>>> <nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote:
>>> I can confirm that the JDK team /has/ committed the change to restore 
>>> Reflection.getCallerClass() in Java 7u40:
>>> 
>>> http://hg.openjdk.java.net/jdk7u/jdk7u40-dev/jdk/rev/244dbaeab45e
>>> 
>>> So, hurray! Lol.
>>> 
>>> With Oracle's new demented numbering scheme, how can you tell when this 
>>> version is coming? ;) Is that the next Java 7 or the one after that?
>>> 
>>> Gary
>>> 
>>> Nick
>>> 
>>> On Aug 1, 2013, at 9:48 AM, Remko Popma wrote:
>>> 
>>>> O(n log n) would not be too bad, but what you're describing sounds more 
>>>> like quadratic time!
>>>> That's huge, Nick, congrats! That would mean a big speed improvement for 
>>>> the location-based layout patterns in Log4j, they use 
>>>> Thread.currentThread().getStackTrace() under the hood. Nice!
>>>> 
>>>> -Remko
>>>> 
>>>> From: Nick Williams <nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net>
>>>> To: Log4J Developers List <log4j-dev@logging.apache.org> 
>>>> Sent: Thursday, August 1, 2013 10:11 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: Relfection.getCallerClass
>>>> 
>>>> Here's something interesting.
>>>> 
>>>> So the last method I had to write, 
>>>> StackTraceFrame.getStackTrace(Throwable), I finished last night. It's the 
>>>> alternative to Throwable.getStackTrace(). Instead of returning 
>>>> StackTraceElement[] (String for declaring class name), it returns 
>>>> StackTraceFrame[] (Class<?> for declaring class). I expected this to 
>>>> perform about the same or possibly even worse--boy was I wrong.
>>>> 
>>>> StackTraceFrame.getStackTrace(Throwable) consistently returns in half the 
>>>> time that Throwable.getStackTrace() does. Looking at why that is, I found 
>>>> a HUGE inefficiency in Throwable.getStackTrace(). 
>>>> StackTraceFrame.getStackTrace(Throwable) walks the backtrace 1 time and 
>>>> runs O(n), where n is the number of elements in the stack trace. 
>>>> Throwable.getStackTrace() walks the back trace 1+(n/2) times (first it 
>>>> measures the depth of the back trace in one native method call, then it 
>>>> gets the elements by index in a native method call for each, looping up to 
>>>> that index each time), for an O(nlogn) (I think) running time. Much worse.
>>>> 
>>>> So ... I improved Throwable.getStackTrace() and cut its running time in 
>>>> half while I was at it. This also resulted in cutting 
>>>> Thread.currentThread().getStackTrace()'s runtime in half. Think they'll 
>>>> appreciate it? :-/
>>>> 
>>>> N
>>>> 
>>>> On Jul 31, 2013, at 4:42 PM, Paul Benedict wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/core-libs-dev/2013-July/019486.html
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 4:40 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Hm... do you have a URL for this ray of hope?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gary
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 5:34 PM, Paul Benedict <pbened...@apache.org> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Nevermind. I just found it. Lousy browser caching!
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 4:33 PM, Paul Benedict <pbened...@apache.org> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Did you find this out on the OpenJDK mailing list? I can't find the 
>>>>> information; I may have missed it.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 4:22 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> KA-POW! Well done, sir. How about we use your mug as the new logo? ;)
>>>>> 
>>>>> Gary
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Jul 31, 2013 at 4:47 PM, Nick Williams 
>>>>> <nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote:
>>>>> A PARTIAL VICTORY!
>>>>> 
>>>>> They've decide to revert the change to Reflection.getCallerClass for 7u40 
>>>>> and the rest of 7. Woohoo!
>>>>> 
>>>>> "What will happen to this method in JDK 8 requires further thought."
>>>>> 
>>>>> Meanwhile, about 300 lines of Java and 1,000 lines of native code later, 
>>>>> I'm about ready to submit my patch for a public API replacement in Java 8.
>>>>> 
>>>>> N
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Jul 29, 2013, at 8:39 AM, Gary Gregory wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> What a mess :( it seem unlikely new APIs will be added to Java 8 to help 
>>>>>> us, at least based on comments like 
>>>>>> http://mail.openjdk.java.net/pipermail/core-libs-dev/2013-July/019110.html
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> We might be left with documenting our side with "if you use features x 
>>>>>> and y in this context then the speed will degrade to so and so, here is 
>>>>>> where to ask Oracle to fix it: http:..."
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Jul 29, 2013, at 9:06, Nick Williams <nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> 
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> core-libs-dev
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org 
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>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Paul
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Paul
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org 
>>>>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
>>>>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition
>>>>> Spring Batch in Action
>>>>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com 
>>>>> Home: http://garygregory.com/
>>>>> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> -- 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Paul
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -- 
>>> E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org 
>>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition
>>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition
>>> Spring Batch in Action
>>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com 
>>> Home: http://garygregory.com/
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>> 
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