Well said Scott. 

These are two separate features. 

Gary

-------- Original message --------
From: Scott Deboy <[email protected]> 
Date:01/23/2014  11:49  (GMT-05:00) 
To: Log4J Developers List <[email protected]> 
Subject: Re: Levels added in revision 1560602 

I don't think the two have to be mutually exclusive - we can enhance
'custom level' support via a new mechanism and add built-in support
for the new levels as well.

I personally don't think they're confusing, as folks have mentioned,
httpd uses them.

I used to think of levels as 'severities', but that's really only true
for a subset of levels we have now (trace isn't really a severity,
right? and fatal, well, it's never used), so my gut says these new
levels support the 80/20 rule for 'custom levels'

Chainsaw/ExpressionFilter etc (assuming log4j2 support) will have to
deal with this eventually (level > DEBUG) etc, but I don't think
that's a big deal.

Scott


On 1/23/14, Ralph Goers <[email protected]> wrote:
> Remko, are you saying that if we make the changes proposed in the other
> thread that we should not add any of these levels to the new Level class?
>
> Ralph
>
> On Jan 23, 2014, at 1:22 AM, Remko Popma <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Gary,
>>
>> Would you mind rolling back the changes you made in revision 1560602 (and
>> perhaps r1560356)?
>> This change added DIAG, VERBOSE, NOTICE log levels to many files.
>> I don't think we all agreed on that approach and we have some promising
>> ideas for an alternative solution that should satisfy everyone.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Remko
>
>
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