The issue https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-316 says we vote on the ML. Can we stick to that and keep it simple? Are you worried that someone will use more than one email address to skew the results? Gary
On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 3:21 AM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> wrote: > Here is another nice overview of free survey tools: > (one of them an interesting idea to set up something with Google Docs) > > http://www.freetech4teachers.com/2012/02/11-web-based-polling-and-survey-tools.html#.UvXn8vmSySo > > > On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 5:15 PM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> Sorry, that was the wrong link. >> The link below is better: most of the online services listed in this >> overview apparently have a free edition. >> http://www.idealware.org/articles/fgt_online_surveys.php >> >> >> On Sat, Feb 8, 2014 at 5:09 PM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com>wrote: >> >>> The site home page (log4j2/src/site/xdoc/index.xml) still has the >>> "Please submit your logo ideas" text. >>> We should probably take that out for the upcoming RC1 release. >>> >>> I would like to put different text in the same location, to point to >>> some location where people can vote for their favorite logo. >>> So we would need to set something up for that. >>> >>> It may be difficult to prevent people from voting multiple times. The >>> only software I found that can do that (http://www.openstv.org/) needs >>> a list of voter email addresses in advance and uses that to control >>> authentication. That doesn't seem feasible. >>> >>> If the tool Christian mentioned can only be used by committers, perhaps >>> we can use of these survey tools below: >>> http://survey-software-review.toptenreviews.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 6:50 PM, Christian Grobmeier <grobme...@gmail.com >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> Hey folks, >>>> >>>> with the wiki i just wanted to check which logos should enter the >>>> actual vote. >>>> Not sure how we would do that, but we have soem tool at the ASF which >>>> we might >>>> be able to utilize. I am just not sure if non-committers can vote with >>>> that tool >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> >>>> On 4 Feb 2014, at 3:51, Matt Sicker wrote: >>>> >>>> Too many good choices for logos! >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 3 February 2014 20:06, Gary Gregory <garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 9:02 PM, Nick Williams < >>>>>> nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I thought about that, but there's no way to prevent people from >>>>>>> voting >>>>>>> multiple times. The mailing list isn't fool-proof but it's a lot >>>>>>> harder to >>>>>>> vote multiple times on it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> With the Wiki, I had to be careful not to mess up everyone else's >>>>>> 'votes' >>>>>> >>>>>> Gary >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> N >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Feb 3, 2014, at 6:40 PM, Paul Benedict wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Why not setup a Survey Monkey? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 6:36 PM, Nick Williams < >>>>>>> nicho...@nicholaswilliams.net> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Wow. This is going to be hard... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I have submitted my nominations. What's the next step? I read the >>>>>>>> JIRA, >>>>>>>> but I saw nothing talking about this "nomination" stage on the >>>>>>>> Wiki. IMO, >>>>>>>> doing the *actual* voting on the mailing list is preferable. Voting >>>>>>>> on the >>>>>>>> wiki will be hard and discourage participation. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Nick >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Feb 3, 2014, at 4:58 PM, Remko Popma wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Christian, it worked! >>>>>>>> What was "Immutable Page" in gray before is now an "Edit (text)" >>>>>>>> link. >>>>>>>> Thanks! >>>>>>>> -Remko >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Feb 4, 2014 at 6:40 AM, Christian Grobmeier < >>>>>>>> grobme...@gmail.com >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 3 Feb 2014, at 22:28, Gary Gregory wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Mon, Feb 3, 2014 at 1:11 PM, Christian Grobmeier < >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> grobme...@gmail.com>wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 3 Feb 2014, at 14:40, Gary Gregory wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Wow, our wiki is lame. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Does each wiki need new user account, or is my account an >>>>>>>>>>>> all-apache >>>>>>>>>>>> wiki >>>>>>>>>>>> account that needs to be added to each wiki I want to play with? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Please add GaryGregory >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I added you, let me know if it doesnt work >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It does not work. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> You have an account on this wiki? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I am not sure about the specifics here... just want to collect >>>>>>>>> some information before I head on to Infra. I added you to >>>>>>>>> contributors >>>>>>>>> list >>>>>>>>> and if the account is on this wiki it is expected to work. >>>>>>>>> SO if you have an account for this wiki let me know. I don't expect >>>>>>>>> other moinmoin >>>>>>>>> wiki accounts work here (in example, Commons). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> And yes, I don't like these wikis either! I just feel Confluence >>>>>>>>> is not >>>>>>>>> much better. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Gary >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Gary >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On Sun, Feb 2, 2014 at 5:21 AM, Christian Grobmeier < >>>>>>>>>>>> grobme...@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi all, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> please show your support for your favorite logo on this wiki >>>>>>>>>>>>> page: >>>>>>>>>>>>> http://wiki.apache.org/logging/Log4jLogoNominations >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I added a few nominations already, just stick with the format. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Everybody reading this message is invited to nominate their >>>>>>>>>>>>> favorite >>>>>>>>>>>>> logo. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>>> Christian >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>>>> --------- >>>>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscribe@logging. >>>>>>>>>>>>> apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: >>>>>>>>>>>>> log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>>> E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org >>>>>>>>>>>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition< >>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.manning. >>>>>>>>>>>> com/bauer3/> >>>>>>>>>>>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>> tahchiev/> >>>>>>>>>>>> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com >>>>>>>>>>>> Home: http://garygregory.com/ >>>>>>>>>>>> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de >>>>>>>>>>> The Zen Programmer: http://bit.ly/12lC6DL >>>>>>>>>>> @grobmeier >>>>>>>>>>> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>> --------- >>>>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org >>>>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-help@logging.apache. >>>>>>>>>>> org >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org >>>>>>>>>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition< >>>>>>>>>> http://www.manning. >>>>>>>>>> com/bauer3/> >>>>>>>>>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/ >>>>>>>>>> > >>>>>>>>>> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/> >>>>>>>>>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com >>>>>>>>>> Home: http://garygregory.com/ >>>>>>>>>> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> http://www.grobmeier.de >>>>>>>>> The Zen Programmer: http://bit.ly/12lC6DL >>>>>>>>> @grobmeier >>>>>>>>> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------------------------------------ >>>>>>>>> --------- >>>>>>>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org >>>>>>>>> For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Paul >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org >>>>>> >>>>>> Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition<http://www.manning. >>>>>> com/bauer3/> >>>>>> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/> >>>>>> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/> >>>>>> >>>>>> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com >>>>>> Home: http://garygregory.com/ >>>>>> Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- >>>> http://www.grobmeier.de >>>> The Zen Programmer: http://bit.ly/12lC6DL >>>> @grobmeier >>>> GPG: 0xA5CC90DB >>>> >>>> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: log4j-dev-unsubscr...@logging.apache.org >>>> For additional commands, e-mail: log4j-dev-h...@logging.apache.org >>>> >>>> >>> >> > -- E-Mail: garydgreg...@gmail.com | ggreg...@apache.org Java Persistence with Hibernate, Second Edition<http://www.manning.com/bauer3/> JUnit in Action, Second Edition <http://www.manning.com/tahchiev/> Spring Batch in Action <http://www.manning.com/templier/> Blog: http://garygregory.wordpress.com Home: http://garygregory.com/ Tweet! http://twitter.com/GaryGregory
