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> On May 13, 2014, at 6:25 AM, Gary Gregory <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Collapse is OK w me. Should we Javadoc all the helpers as private?
> 
> Gary
> 
> 
>> On Tue, May 13, 2014 at 9:24 AM, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
>> That lang package was me. It's fine to collapse them; I was just thinking of 
>> doing some categorization with the helpers package. I called it lang because 
>> that's where ClassLoader is. :)
>> 
>> 
>>> On Tuesday, 13 May 2014, Ralph Goers <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> I prefer to move all classes into the helpers directory and get rid of 
>>> lang.  Why ResourceLoaders deserve to be placed in a “lang” package doesn’t 
>>> make a lot of sense to me - they could just as easily have been placed into 
>>> a package called util.  I just didn’t notice when the lang subproject was 
>>> created or I would have said something then.
>>> 
>>> However, I am beginning to think we are spending an inordinate amount of 
>>> time moving stuff from one package to another and renaming classes and 
>>> variables. Frequently I find that what one person considers a “better” name 
>>> is just busy work and doesn’t really improve anything, and sometimes makes 
>>> things worse (again, I think LoggerProvider is a horrible name). If our 
>>> variables were all named x, y and z that would be one thing, but IMO 
>>> changing an abbreviated name to one that is fully spelled out accomplishes 
>>> nothing.   
>>> 
>>> OTOH, I don’t mind refactoring that simplifies long classes or methods as 
>>> those make the code easier to understand and can reduce the likelihood of 
>>> bugs.
>>> 
>>> Ralph
>>> 
>>>> On May 12, 2014, at 7:56 PM, Gary Gregory <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> We have the packages:
>>>> 
>>>> - org.apache.logging.log4j.core.helpers
>>>> - org.apache.logging.log4j.core.helpers.lang
>>>> 
>>>> We should either:
>>>> - Move some classes from org.apache.logging.log4j.core.helpers into 
>>>> org.apache.logging.log4j.core.helpers.lang, or
>>>> - Move all org.apache.logging.log4j.core.helpers.lang classes into 
>>>> org.apache.logging.log4j.core.helpers
>>>> 
>>>> Thoughts?
>>>> 
>>>> When ready, I'd like to do the moves to make some uncommitted code of mine 
>>>> easier to migrate.
>>>> 
>>>> Thank you,
>>>> Gary
>>>> 
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