You raise a good point! This is a much better reason behind why I prefer to
use Runnable, Callable<T>, etc., over Thread. This way you can use
ManagedExecutors.managedTask(...) with the same classes.


On 21 May 2014 11:59, Paul Benedict <[email protected]> wrote:

> As I am sure many of you already know, you don't want to create threads in
> a container. You want to let the application server manage that. So I think
> you guys should seriously consider supporting standard Java EE solutions
> for those who are going to use this stuff in application servers.
>
>
> Cheers,
> Paul
>
>
> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> So couldn't you just use java.util.Timer with java.util.TimerTask? Or are
>> you thinking more along the lines of Executors.newScheduledThreadPool?
>>
>>
>> On 21 May 2014 11:51, Ralph Goers <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> I definitely don’t want to be dependent on JEE for a timer service.
>>>
>>> Ralph
>>>
>>>
>>> On May 21, 2014, at 9:40 AM, Paul Benedict <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>> You may want to provide a standard Java EE solution using the Timer
>>> service:
>>> http://docs.oracle.com/javaee/6/tutorial/doc/bnboy.html
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Paul
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:33 AM, Gary Gregory 
>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>
>>>> We embed Quartz at work for scheduling. Instead of inventing our own,
>>>> perhaps we could make this pluggable with a really "simple" default that is
>>>> our own.
>>>>
>>>> Surely there are already other schedulers in the Apache lands.
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:31 AM, Remko Popma <[email protected]>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I can see how that would solve one or more issues that keep coming up
>>>>> with the RollingAppender.
>>>>> I hope that it may also make it easier to break down the rollover
>>>>> logic into smaller pieces that can be unit tested easier, something that
>>>>> I've been meaning to work on.
>>>>>
>>>>> The only drawback (if this even is a drawback) I can think of is that
>>>>> we would always be running a background thread. At the moment Log4J only
>>>>> starts a background thread when Async Loggers are used, or potentially
>>>>> multiple threads for every AsyncAppender that is configured.
>>>>>
>>>>> Perhaps we can start by creating the thread unconditionally and later
>>>>> enhance to only create/start the Executor if necessary: when a
>>>>> RollingAppender or a monitoringInterval is configured.
>>>>>
>>>>> I can't think of anything else, sounds like a good idea to me.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Wed, May 21, 2014 at 11:52 PM, Ralph Goers <
>>>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I am thinking that I am going to add a Scheduler class. It will
>>>>>> expose a schedule method that accepts a Runnable as a parameter along 
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> the initial time and frequency.  The schedule method would schedule a 
>>>>>> Timer
>>>>>> Task that passes the Runnable to an Executor when the time expires.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I would then use this service to check for configuration changes and
>>>>>> file rollovers instead of the way it is currently done, which requires 
>>>>>> log
>>>>>> events to trigger them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ralph
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