Well, what categories are we supposed to use? Is there a set list, or can
we just use whatever? It's not that clear other than looking at current
usage (most things are in the Core category).


On 3 June 2014 01:31, Ralph Goers <[email protected]> wrote:

> A new annotation to do what? To specify which category the plugin belongs
> to? What is wrong with the way it is now? What problem are we trying to
> solve?
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jun 2, 2014, at 8:30 PM, Gary Gregory <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> A new annotation seems simpler to me but that might be contradictory to
> what Ralph had in mind when he created the framework. Hopefully, let us
> know ;-)
>
>
> Gary
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 11:23 PM, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> Yeah, but now I'm wondering which approach to take. Re-use @Plugin, add
>> another annotation, or refactor how categories are handled in @Plugin.
>> Could be a mix of 1 and 3, with 3 coming later.
>>
>>
>> On 2 June 2014 22:00, Gary Gregory <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>>> Welcome back Matt then.
>>>
>>> Are you putting yourself on deck to redo the type converters a la Log4j?
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 10:55 PM, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Scratch that idea. It's using ASM. That's definitely not worth it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 2 June 2014 21:51, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I'm looking at how Spring does it, and for pre-1.8 code, it's quite
>>>>> the rabbit hole. I'll report back when I find my way out.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2 June 2014 21:39, Gary Gregory <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 10:35 PM, Matt Sicker <[email protected]>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Not for the factory/builder stuff! Unless we cached more data about
>>>>>>> plugins like that.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah, I made an incorrect assumption then. Let's keep it simple and
>>>>>> require the name then? We can always enhance later.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2 June 2014 21:32, Gary Gregory <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It would only happen at compile time... so who cares?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Mon, Jun 2, 2014 at 10:29 PM, Matt Sicker <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In regards to the parameter reflection stuff, I can't find
>>>>>>>>> anything in 1.6 other than using
>>>>>>>>> Introspector.getBeanInfo(Class<?>).getMethodDescriptors() and
>>>>>>>>> MethodDescriptor.getParameterDescriptors(). From what I recall,
>>>>>>>>> Introspector is rather slow for this sort of situation and is mostly 
>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>> in GUIs that deal with JavaBeans.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 2 June 2014 21:20, Matt Sicker <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 2 June 2014 21:14, Gary Gregory <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Well, my point is that you'd just use an annotation. What the
>>>>>>>>>>> annotation is, I do not know. I'm not crazy about the category idea 
>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> general because I am one typo away on a late night from getting 
>>>>>>>>>>> stuck. If
>>>>>>>>>>> the code does not compile, that's easier to fix.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I agree on that. It's terribly frustrating to deal with runtime
>>>>>>>>>> problems that should have been detectable at compile time. Perhaps 
>>>>>>>>>> instead
>>>>>>>>>> of categories we had a meta-annotation that describes a plugin 
>>>>>>>>>> category,
>>>>>>>>>> and then plugins can use a category annotation instead of the 
>>>>>>>>>> parameter? We
>>>>>>>>>> could really use annotations like this to make things more typed 
>>>>>>>>>> with less
>>>>>>>>>> typing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Matt Sicker <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Matt Sicker <[email protected]>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>
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