On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 10:35 AM, Remko Popma <[email protected]> wrote:

> One more: the lack of a public API to unmap a memory mapped file means we
> may need to use sun.misc.Cleaner to implement rollover for the
> upcoming MemoryMappedFileAppender. Still investigating this...


Is the MemoryMappedFileAppender on a branch? I do not see it in master...

Gary


>
> On Monday, September 15, 2014, Remko Popma <[email protected]> wrote:
>
>> And separately from the caller class issue, log4j2 async loggers depend
>> on the LMAX Disruptor, which makes heavy use of sun.misc.Unsafe, I think
>> mostly for concurrency primitives.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 2014/09/15, at 22:59, Gary Gregory <[email protected]> wrote:
>>
>> If you download the source zip or git clone, please see the class
>> org.apache.logging.log4j.core.impl.ReflectiveCallerClassUtility.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 9:56 AM, Gary Gregory <[email protected]>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Ah, let's see...
>>>
>>> These links discuss our problems:
>>>
>>> - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-245
>>> - https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-809
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 8:54 AM, Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland <
>>> [email protected]> wrote:
>>>
>>>>  Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Can I point you to the following paragraphs below.
>>>>
>>>> "For anything where your migration path is unclear, I would appreciate
>>>> comments on the JDK-internal API usage patterns in the attached jdeps
>>>> report, in particular comments elaborating on the rationale for them either
>>>> to me or on this list.
>>>>
>>>> Finding suitable replacements for unsupported interfaces is not always
>>>> straightforward, which is why I am reaching out to you early in the JDK 9
>>>> development cycle so you can give feedback about new APIs that may be
>>>> needed to facilitate this exercise."
>>>>
>>>> Please feel free to send me your comments, explanations etc on why you
>>>> are using JDK-internal APIs ?
>>>>
>>>> Rgds,Rory
>>>>
>>>> P.S. I haven't gotten round to running the tool on log4j yet.
>>>>
>>>> On 15/09/2014 12:52, Gary Gregory wrote:
>>>>
>>>>  Sad, isn't it? Like going to the Dr. and he tells you you've got
>>>> something he can't help you with!
>>>>
>>>>  Gary
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 15, 2014 at 7:33 AM, Ralph Goers <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Yes, but if you follow the link you will notice that there is still no
>>>>> replacement.
>>>>>
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>>
>>>>> > On Sep 15, 2014, at 3:55 AM, Gary Gregory <[email protected]>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > This is of interest to use and our call stack query hacks, isn't kt?
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Gary
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > -------- Original message --------
>>>>> > From: "Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin Ireland"
>>>>> > Date:09/15/2014 06:17 (GMT-05:00)
>>>>> > To: [email protected]
>>>>> > Cc: Maven Developers List ,Balchandra Vaidya ,Dalibor Topic
>>>>> > Subject: Re: Analysis of apache-maven-3.2.3's dependency on
>>>>> JDK-Internal APIs
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Hi Stephen,
>>>>> >
>>>>> > One more time, hope this is ok.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Rgds,Rory
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Â  Â JDK Internal API Usage Report for apache-maven-3.2.3
>>>>> >
>>>>> > The OpenJDK Quality Outreach campaign has run a compatibility report
>>>>> to
>>>>> > identify usage of JDK-internal APIs. Usage of these JDK-internal APIs
>>>>> > could pose compatibility issues, as the Java team explained in 1996
>>>>> > <http://www.oracle.com/technetwork/java/faq-sun-packages-142232.html
>>>>> >.
>>>>> > We have created this report to help you identify which JDK-internal
>>>>> APIs
>>>>> > your project uses, what to use instead, and where those changes
>>>>> should
>>>>> > go. Making these changes will improve your compatibility, and in some
>>>>> > cases give better performance.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Migrating away from the JDK-internal APIs now will give your team
>>>>> > adequate time for testing before the release of JDK 9. If you are
>>>>> unable
>>>>> > to migrate away from an internal API, please provide us with an
>>>>> > explanation below to help us understand it better. As a reminder,
>>>>> > supported APIs are determined by the OpenJDK's Java Community Process
>>>>> > and not by Oracle.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > This report was generated by jdeps
>>>>> > <
>>>>> http://docs.oracle.com/javase/8/docs/technotes/tools/unix/jdeps.html>
>>>>> > through static analysis of artifacts: it does not identify any usage
>>>>> of
>>>>> > those APIs through reflection or dynamic bytecode. You may also run
>>>>> > jdeps on your own
>>>>> > <
>>>>> https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/JDK8/Java+Dependency+Analysis+Tool
>>>>> >
>>>>> > if you would prefer.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Summary of the analysis of the jar files within apache-maven-3.2.3:
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Â  Â * Numer of jar files depending on JDK-internal APIs: 1
>>>>> >Â  Â * Internal APIs that have known replacements: 0
>>>>> >Â  Â * Internal APIs that your team should migrate away: 1
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Â  Â  Â  Â APIs that have known replacements
>>>>> >Â  Â  Â  Â <
>>>>> https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/JDK8/Java+Dependency+Analysis+Tool
>>>>> >:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ID Replace Usage of With Inside
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Â  Â  Â  Â JDK-internal APIs without supported replacements:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ID Internal APIs (do not use) Used by
>>>>> > 1 sun.misc.Unsafe
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Â  Â * lib/guava-14.0.1.jar
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Explanation...
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >Â  Â  Â  Â Identify External Replacements
>>>>> >
>>>>> > You should use a separate third-party library that performs this
>>>>> > functionality.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > ID Internal API (grouped by package) Used By Identify External
>>>>> > Replacement
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > On 15/09/2014 10:22, Stephen Connolly wrote:
>>>>> > > I think the mailing list stripped the attachment
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > On Monday, 15 September 2014, Rory O'Donnell Oracle, Dublin
>>>>> Ireland <
>>>>> > > [email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >> Hi Robert,Kristian,
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> As part of the preparations for JDK 9, Oracle's engineers have
>>>>> been
>>>>> > >> analyzing open source projects like yours to understand usage.
>>>>> > >> One area of concern involves identifying compatibility problems,
>>>>> such as
>>>>> > >> reliance on JDK-internal APIs.
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Our engineers have already prepared guidance on migrating some of
>>>>> the more
>>>>> > >> common usage patterns of JDK-internal APIs to supported public
>>>>> interfaces.
>>>>> > >> The list is on the OpenJDK wiki [0], along with instructions on
>>>>> how to run
>>>>> > >> the jdeps analysis tool yourself .
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> As part of the ongoing development of JDK 9, I would like to
>>>>> encourage
>>>>> > >> migration from JDK-internal APIs towards the supported Java APIs.
>>>>> I have
>>>>> > >> prepared a report for your project release apache-maven-3.2.3
>>>>> based on the
>>>>> > >> jdeps output.
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> The report is attached to this e-mail.
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> For anything where your migration path is unclear, I would
>>>>> appreciate
>>>>> > >> comments on the JDK-internal API usage patterns in the attached
>>>>> jdeps
>>>>> > >> report - in particular comments elaborating on the rationale for
>>>>> them -
>>>>> > >> either to me or on this list.
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Finding suitable replacements for unsupported interfaces is not
>>>>> always
>>>>> > >> straightforward, which is why I am reaching out to you early in
>>>>> the JDK 9
>>>>> > >> development cycle so you can give feedback about new APIs that
>>>>> may be
>>>>> > >> needed to facilitate this exercise.
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Thank you in advance for any efforts and feedback helping us make
>>>>> JDK 9
>>>>> > >> better.
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Rgds,Rory
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> [0] https://wiki.openjdk.java.net/display/JDK8/Java+Dependency+
>>>>> > >> Analysis+Tool
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> --
>>>>> > >> Rgds,Rory O'Donnell
>>>>> > >> Quality Engineering Manager
>>>>> > >> Oracle EMEA , Dublin, Ireland
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> >
>>>>> > --
>>>>> > Rgds,Rory O'Donnell
>>>>> > Quality Engineering Manager
>>>>> > Oracle EMEA , Dublin, Ireland
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
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