You are welcome.

In the principle, the event loss issue (fixed by event replay post-initialization) depends on the time it takes for the underlying implementation to initialize. Unless you can guarantee that log4j2 initializes instantly**, during SLF4J initialization event loss will occur with log4j2 as well. Note the event loss issue is limited to applications using slf4j which are multi-threaded early on.

> Would you mind sharing which applications perform reflection on
> the org.slf4j.Logger implementation (and why)?

The typical example is Spring which may do reflection on logger instances. If the org.slg4j.Logger implementation offers the log(org.slf4j.event.LoggingEvent) method, then the org.slf4j.event.LoggingEvent interface must exist on the class path. Otherwise, the Spring initialization will fail. The org.slf4j.event.LoggingEvent interface was introduced in slf4j-api version 1.7.15. It follows that if you decide to make use of the slf4j replay feature, then log42 will de facto depend on slf4j version 1.7.15 both at compile and runtime.

--
Ceki

**I am presuming here that log4j2 initializes when it creates and returns its first Logger.

On 4/23/2016 15:54, Remko Popma wrote:
...and thank you for the info, Ceki, that is certainly helpful!

Remko

On Saturday, 23 April 2016, Remko Popma <[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

    Question: does the replay support solve a problem in SLF4J or in
    Logback initialization?

    If the latter, then perhaps there's no need to implement the new
    method since log4j-slf4j-impl binds to log4j2 anyway, no?

    Remko

    Sent from my iPhone

     > On 2016/04/23, at 22:12, Ceki Gulcu <[email protected] <javascript:;>>
    wrote:
     >
     > Hello,
     >
     > For your information, slf4j-api version 1.7.21 will work with
    current versions of log4j2 just fine albeit without replay support.
    For replay support, log4j2's implementation of org.slf4j.Logger
    interface needs to have a method with the signature
    log(org.slf4j.event.LoggingEvent) in which case events generated
    during SLF4J initialization will be replayed. Note that if log4j2's
    Logger implementation chooses to implement the aforementioned log
    method, log42 will de facto depend on SLF4J version 1.7.15 and later
    both at compile and *runtime*.
     >
     > The runtime dependency might seem surprising but some
    applications perform reflection on the org.slf4j.Logger
    implementation which will fail without slf4j-api 1.7.15 or later
    being present on the classpath.
     >
     > I hope this helps,
     >
     > --
     > Ceki
     >
     >> On 4/23/2016 14:47, Ralph Goers wrote:
     >> We are not fully compatible with this version of SLF4J.  It had some
     >> initialization race conditions so Substitute Loggers were invented.
     >> Anyway, there is a new interface we need to implement.
     >>
     >> Ralph
     >>
     >> Begin forwarded message:
     >>
     >>> *From:* "Remko Popma (JIRA)" <[email protected] <javascript:;>
    <mailto:[email protected] <javascript:;>>>
     >>> *Date:* April 23, 2016 at 4:13:12 AM MST
     >>> *To:* [email protected] <javascript:;>
    <mailto:[email protected] <javascript:;>>
     >>> *Subject:* *[jira] [Closed] (LOG4J2-1375) Update SLF4J from
    1.7.13 to
     >>> 1.7.21*
     >>> *Reply-To:* "Log4J Developers List"
    <[email protected] <javascript:;>
     >>> <mailto:[email protected] <javascript:;>>>
     >>>
     >>>
     >>>    [
     >>>
    
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-1375?page=com.atlassian.jira.plugin.system.issuetabpanels:all-tabpanel
     >>> ]
     >>>
     >>> Remko Popma closed LOG4J2-1375.
     >>> -------------------------------
     >>>   Resolution: Fixed
     >>>
     >>>> Update SLF4J from 1.7.13 to 1.7.21
     >>>> ----------------------------------
     >>>>
     >>>>               Key: LOG4J2-1375
     >>>>               URL:
    https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-1375
     >>>>           Project: Log4j 2
     >>>>        Issue Type: Improvement
     >>>>        Components: SLF4J Bridge
     >>>>  Affects Versions: 2.5
     >>>>          Reporter: Remko Popma
     >>>>          Assignee: Remko Popma
     >>>>           Fix For: 2.6
     >>>>
     >>>>
     >>>> Update SLF4J from 1.7.13 to 1.7.21
     >>>
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