Whoa, I wonder how async MMF benchmarks compare. Also, I wonder if there's
some sort of cloud service out there we can use for free to run benchmarks
on a regular basis. Might even be doable with a dedicated VM on
builds.apache.org.

On 11 February 2017 at 13:37, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:

> Just for fun I decided to add some more tests to the file appender
> benchmark. I’ve checked them in. Please review them to see if everything is
> configured so the tests make sense.
>
> Note that I would expect the async appenders to reduce to the speed of the
> file appender, since once the queue fills up that is what they are waiting
> on. But I didn’t set a buffer size for the disruptor or async logger tests
> so I would have expected those to be quite a bit faster than the regular
> file test.
>
> The one thing that is definitely worth noting is how truly terrible the
> JUL file appender is. I have to assume that it must be doing an immediate
> flush on every write.
>
> This is on my MacBook Pro - what Ceki would call Fast CPU/Fast SSD
>
> Benchmark                                                  Mode  Samples
>   Score     Error   Units
> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.julFile                 thrpt       10
>   69.546 ±   2.635  ops/ms
> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j1File              thrpt       10
>   783.006 ±  28.138  ops/ms
> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2AsyncAppender     thrpt       10
>   939.605 ±  38.655  ops/ms
> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2AsyncDisruptor    thrpt       10
> 1446.522 ±  45.485  ops/ms
> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2AsyncLogger       thrpt       10
> 1269.014 ±  27.236  ops/ms
> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2File              thrpt       10
> 1475.605 ±  74.675  ops/ms
> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2MMF               thrpt       10
> 2131.240 ± 114.184  ops/ms
> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2RAF               thrpt       10
> 1499.667 ±  39.668  ops/ms
> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.logbackAsyncFile        thrpt       10
>   326.969 ±   2.690  ops/ms
> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.logbackFile             thrpt       10
>   940.527 ±  34.090  ops/ms
>
> And this is on my old MacBook Pro - it uses a hard drive so isn’t very
> fast.
>
> Benchmark                                                  Mode  Samples
>   Score     Error   Units
> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.julFile                 thrpt       10
>    15.722 ±  15.557  ops/ms
> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j1File              thrpt       10
>   530.668 ±  54.193  ops/ms
> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2AsyncAppender     thrpt       10
>   498.620 ± 178.693  ops/ms
> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2AsyncDisruptor    thrpt       10
>   454.541 ± 145.505  ops/ms
> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2AsyncLogger       thrpt       10
>   527.784 ± 150.269  ops/ms
> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2File              thrpt       10
>   587.605 ±  97.769  ops/ms
> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2MMF               thrpt       10
>  1966.092 ± 431.196  ops/ms
> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2RAF               thrpt       10
>   364.694 ±  34.602  ops/ms
> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.logbackAsyncFile        thrpt       10
>   258.220 ±   1.936  ops/ms
> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.logbackFile             thrpt       10
>   560.958 ±  36.982  ops/ms
>
> Ralph
>
> On Feb 9, 2017, at 1:39 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Also, there are some potential issues with logback-perf:
>
> * JMH is way out of date (1.11.3 versus 1.17.4)
> * Less warmup iterations than we do
>
> Anyways, results for 32 threads (8 core environment):
>
> Benchmark                           Mode  Cnt     Score    Error   Units
> FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j1File   thrpt   10   695.774 ±  9.567  ops/ms
> FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2File   thrpt   10  1300.091 ± 17.579  ops/ms
> FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2RAF    thrpt   10  1365.118 ± 17.656  ops/ms
> FileAppenderBenchmark.logbackFile  thrpt   10   766.294 ± 10.121  ops/ms
>
> On 9 February 2017 at 14:37, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> That value does look messed up. I'll re-run the 32 thread tests. Also,
>> I'm not on the logback lists yet, so I'll sign up this afternoon.
>>
>> On 9 February 2017 at 14:35, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>
>>> What is up with that score for 32 threads?  That can’t possibly be
>>> correct.
>>>
>>> Ralph
>>>
>>> On Feb 9, 2017, at 12:45 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> I ran the logback-perf repo on the same AWS instance. Here's the CSV
>>> data. It appears as soon as more than one thread comes into play, log4j2
>>> has better scores.
>>>
>>> "Benchmark","Mode","Threads","Samples","Score","Score Error
>>> (99.9%)","Unit"
>>> "ch.qos.logback.perf.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j1File","thrp
>>> t",1,10,964.600470,279.139021,"ops/ms"
>>> "ch.qos.logback.perf.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2File","thrp
>>> t",1,10,1274.682156,6.179197,"ops/ms"
>>> "ch.qos.logback.perf.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2RAF","thrpt
>>> ",1,10,1257.026405,32.898682,"ops/ms"
>>> "ch.qos.logback.perf.FileAppenderBenchmark.logbackFile","thr
>>> pt",1,10,1363.683525,41.884725,"ops/ms"
>>> "Benchmark","Mode","Threads","Samples","Score","Score Error
>>> (99.9%)","Unit"
>>> "ch.qos.logback.perf.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j1File","thrp
>>> t",2,10,687.304803,13.266922,"ops/ms"
>>> "ch.qos.logback.perf.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2File","thrp
>>> t",2,10,1386.596198,207.305249,"ops/ms"
>>> "ch.qos.logback.perf.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2RAF","thrpt
>>> ",2,10,1579.884762,24.098318,"ops/ms"
>>> "ch.qos.logback.perf.FileAppenderBenchmark.logbackFile","thr
>>> pt",2,10,953.138212,99.156775,"ops/ms"
>>> "Benchmark","Mode","Threads","Samples","Score","Score Error
>>> (99.9%)","Unit"
>>> "ch.qos.logback.perf.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j1File","thrp
>>> t",4,10,670.442970,15.049614,"ops/ms"
>>> "ch.qos.logback.perf.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2File","thrp
>>> t",4,10,1218.543593,18.234077,"ops/ms"
>>> "ch.qos.logback.perf.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2RAF","thrpt
>>> ",4,10,1309.092881,31.547936,"ops/ms"
>>> "ch.qos.logback.perf.FileAppenderBenchmark.logbackFile","thr
>>> pt",4,10,845.168355,24.547390,"ops/ms"
>>> "Benchmark","Mode","Threads","Samples","Score","Score Error
>>> (99.9%)","Unit"
>>> "ch.qos.logback.perf.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j1File","thrp
>>> t",8,10,689.805339,7.415023,"ops/ms"
>>> "ch.qos.logback.perf.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2File","thrp
>>> t",8,10,1196.396592,19.360776,"ops/ms"
>>> "ch.qos.logback.perf.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2RAF","thrpt
>>> ",8,10,1319.477318,10.601260,"ops/ms"
>>> "ch.qos.logback.perf.FileAppenderBenchmark.logbackFile","thr
>>> pt",8,10,816.608726,25.603234,"ops/ms"
>>> "Benchmark","Mode","Threads","Samples","Score","Score Error
>>> (99.9%)","Unit"
>>> "ch.qos.logback.perf.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j1File","thrp
>>> t",16,10,687.623660,16.114008,"ops/ms"
>>> "ch.qos.logback.perf.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2File","thrp
>>> t",16,10,1203.649145,8.835115,"ops/ms"
>>> "ch.qos.logback.perf.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2RAF","thrpt
>>> ",16,10,1266.241778,7.564414,"ops/ms"
>>> "ch.qos.logback.perf.FileAppenderBenchmark.logbackFile","thr
>>> pt",16,10,789.507183,9.866592,"ops/ms"
>>> "Benchmark","Mode","Threads","Samples","Score","Score Error
>>> (99.9%)","Unit"
>>> "ch.qos.logback.perf.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j1File","thrp
>>> t",32,10,690.252411,11.587858,"ops/ms"
>>> "ch.qos.logback.perf.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2File","thrp
>>> t",32,10,1514185.478492,126804.168771,"ops/ms"
>>> "ch.qos.logback.perf.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2RAF","thrpt
>>> ",32,10,1264.049209,28.309088,"ops/ms"
>>> "ch.qos.logback.perf.FileAppenderBenchmark.logbackFile","thr
>>> pt",32,10,754.828687,14.865909,"ops/ms"
>>> "Benchmark","Mode","Threads","Samples","Score","Score Error
>>> (99.9%)","Unit"
>>> "ch.qos.logback.perf.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j1File","thrp
>>> t",64,10,670.498518,11.147198,"ops/ms"
>>> "ch.qos.logback.perf.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2File","thrp
>>> t",64,10,1293.301940,22.687086,"ops/ms"
>>> "ch.qos.logback.perf.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2RAF","thrpt
>>> ",64,10,1380.527892,14.907542,"ops/ms"
>>> "ch.qos.logback.perf.FileAppenderBenchmark.logbackFile","thr
>>> pt",64,10,750.528159,11.356281,"ops/ms"
>>>
>>> On 9 February 2017 at 13:02, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> You might try running Ceki’s benchmark project on AWS and publish those
>>>> numbers here. He also asked people to publish numbers on the Logback user’s
>>>> list so he can add them to his spreadsheet.
>>>>
>>>> From your numbers and the numbers I’ve been getting, it is clear to me
>>>> that the SSDs in Apple’s MacBook’s are pretty awesome. From the hardware
>>>> Remko is listing I’d say his machine is about as old as my other MacBook
>>>> except that he has an SSD that is slightly faster than my hard drive.
>>>>
>>>> Ralph
>>>>
>>>> On Feb 9, 2017, at 11:12 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ran on an AWS instance (CentOS 7.2), cpuinfo says 8-core Intel(R)
>>>> Xeon(R) CPU E5-2666 v3 @ 2.90GHz, not super sure about all the params
>>>> involved in making the instance, but here's some data (same strangeness
>>>> with MMF):
>>>>
>>>> Benchmark                                         Mode  Samples
>>>> Score     Error   Units
>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.julFile        thrpt       10
>>>>  86.867 ±   4.502  ops/ms
>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j1File     thrpt       10
>>>> 671.156 ±   7.099  ops/ms
>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2File     thrpt       10
>>>>  1221.814 ±  22.130  ops/ms
>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2MMF      thrpt       10
>>>>  1178.407 ± 960.141  ops/ms
>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2RAF      thrpt       10
>>>>  1220.746 ±  34.421  ops/ms
>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.logbackFile    thrpt       10
>>>> 898.122 ±   8.128  ops/ms
>>>>
>>>> On 9 February 2017 at 12:02, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Run on a MacBook Pro (Retina, 15-inch, Mid 2015) 2.5 GHz Intel Core
>>>>> i7. Can find out more hardware specs if needed. I also noticed that the
>>>>> memory mapped file starts out fast and slows down over time (somewhat seen
>>>>> by the error value here).
>>>>>
>>>>> Benchmark                                         Mode  Samples
>>>>> Score     Error   Units
>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.julFile        thrpt       10
>>>>>  96.540 ±   7.875  ops/ms
>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j1File     thrpt       10
>>>>> 766.286 ±  11.461  ops/ms
>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2File     thrpt       10
>>>>>  1787.620 ±  36.695  ops/ms
>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2MMF      thrpt       10
>>>>>  1506.588 ± 956.354  ops/ms
>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2RAF      thrpt       10
>>>>>  1934.966 ±  50.089  ops/ms
>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.logbackFile    thrpt       10
>>>>>  1285.066 ±  12.674  ops/ms
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9 February 2017 at 11:44, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> My results on Windows 10 64-bit laptop (java 1.8.0_51 64bit),
>>>>>> i5-3317u CPU @ 1.70GHz (dual core with hyperthreading for 4 virtual 
>>>>>> cores),
>>>>>> SSD hard disk:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> java -jar log4j-perf/target/benchmarks.jar
>>>>>> ".*FileAppenderBenchmark.*" -f 1 -wi 10 -i 20 -t 4 -tu ms
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # Run complete. Total time: 00:03:58
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Benchmark                                         Mode  Samples
>>>>>> Score     Error   Units
>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.julFile        thrpt       20
>>>>>>  37.646 ±   0.876  ops/ms
>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j1File     thrpt       20
>>>>>> 405.305 ±   6.596  ops/ms
>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2File     thrpt       20
>>>>>> 751.949 ±  16.055  ops/ms
>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2MMF      thrpt       20
>>>>>>  1250.666 ± 168.757  ops/ms
>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2RAF      thrpt       20
>>>>>> 728.743 ±  23.909  ops/ms
>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.logbackFile    thrpt       20
>>>>>> 676.926 ±  19.518  ops/ms
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --------------------
>>>>>> Logback config without immediateFlush=false:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> # Run complete. Total time: 00:03:44
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Benchmark                                         Mode  Samples
>>>>>> Score     Error   Units
>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.julFile        thrpt       20
>>>>>>  37.949 ±   1.220  ops/ms
>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j1File     thrpt       20
>>>>>> 404.042 ±   8.450  ops/ms
>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2File     thrpt       20
>>>>>> 690.393 ± 115.537  ops/ms
>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2MMF      thrpt       20
>>>>>>  1221.681 ±  82.205  ops/ms
>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2RAF      thrpt       20
>>>>>> 823.059 ±  41.512  ops/ms
>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.logbackFile    thrpt       20
>>>>>>  83.352 ±  11.911  ops/ms
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 1:05 AM, Mikael Ståldal <
>>>>>> mikael.stal...@magine.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I guess that with a memory mapped file, you leave it to the OS to do
>>>>>>> the best it can, and you lose any direct control over how it is actually
>>>>>>> done.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Thu, Feb 9, 2017 at 4:52 PM, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On my Mac Pro with the slower external SSD I now got:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Benchmark                                         Mode  Samples
>>>>>>>> Score     Error   Units
>>>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.julFile        thrpt       10
>>>>>>>> 73.739 ±   0.740  ops/ms
>>>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j1File     thrpt       10
>>>>>>>> 683.129 ±   9.407  ops/ms
>>>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2File     thrpt       10
>>>>>>>> 991.293 ± 193.049  ops/ms
>>>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2MMF      thrpt       10
>>>>>>>> 3072.250 ±  63.475  ops/ms
>>>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2RAF      thrpt       10
>>>>>>>> 1056.256 ± 137.673  ops/ms
>>>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.logbackFile    thrpt       10
>>>>>>>> 784.723 ± 153.226  ops/ms
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> and on the same machine with the faster internal SSD I got:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Benchmark                                         Mode  Samples
>>>>>>>> Score     Error   Units
>>>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.julFile        thrpt       10
>>>>>>>> 74.661 ±   0.232  ops/ms
>>>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j1File     thrpt       10
>>>>>>>> 647.041 ±   2.994  ops/ms
>>>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2File     thrpt       10
>>>>>>>> 1333.887 ±  13.921  ops/ms
>>>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2MMF      thrpt       10
>>>>>>>> 3025.726 ± 210.414  ops/ms
>>>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2RAF      thrpt       10
>>>>>>>> 1433.620 ±  11.194  ops/ms
>>>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.logbackFile    thrpt       10
>>>>>>>> 1026.319 ±  13.347  ops/ms
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I will continue to run this on a few other configurations. I think
>>>>>>>> I would also like to add the async appenders/loggers to this test so 
>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>> one can see all the various options.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is really quite interesting to me to see how the memory mapped
>>>>>>>> appender behaves so differently from one machine to another. I don’t 
>>>>>>>> know
>>>>>>>> under what circumstances I would recommend using it though.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 9, 2017, at 7:03 AM, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> After modifying the configuration the new results on my laptop are:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Benchmark                                         Mode  Samples
>>>>>>>> Score      Error   Units
>>>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.julFile        thrpt       10
>>>>>>>> 92.580 ±    3.698  ops/ms
>>>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j1File     thrpt       10
>>>>>>>> 828.707 ±   55.006  ops/ms
>>>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2File     thrpt       10
>>>>>>>> 1647.230 ±  125.682  ops/ms
>>>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2MMF      thrpt       10
>>>>>>>> 1465.002 ± 1284.943  ops/ms
>>>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2RAF      thrpt       10
>>>>>>>> 1765.340 ±  149.707  ops/ms
>>>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.logbackFile    thrpt       10
>>>>>>>> 1192.594 ±   57.777  ops/ms
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I will try the other machines later and post those results.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 9, 2017, at 5:22 AM, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ceki replied on twitter that the immediateFlush option is now a
>>>>>>>> parameter of the appended, not the encoder, so it looks like the confit
>>>>>>>> needs to be changed and the test rerun.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 9, 2017, at 3:08 AM, Remko Popma <remko.po...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> FYI, The write and flush methods in BufferedOutputStream are also
>>>>>>>> synchronized, so we won't be able to do away with synchronization
>>>>>>>> completely.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In OutputStreamManager we synchronize multiple methods but these
>>>>>>>> are nested calls. I thought reentrant synchronization had negligible
>>>>>>>> overhead but I haven't measured this myself.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 9, 2017, at 2:31, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I’m pretty sure the problem we have is that a) we are synchronizing
>>>>>>>> many methods and b) we are synchronizing more than just the write.
>>>>>>>> Unfortunately, I can’t figure out how to reduce that based on how 
>>>>>>>> dispersed
>>>>>>>> the code has gotten.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 8, 2017, at 10:14 AM, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I tried to modify FileManager to just use a BufferedOutputStream
>>>>>>>> but discovered I couldn’t as the layouts now require the ByteBuffer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 8, 2017, at 12:14 AM, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The append method isn’t synchronized but the writeBytes method
>>>>>>>> acquires a lock. His code is actually a lot simpler than ours in that 
>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>> just uses a BufferedOutputStream and he only obtains the lock when he 
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> writing to it.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2017, at 5:23 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'm not sure if I'm looking in the right place, but a major
>>>>>>>> difference now between Logback's appenders and Log4j's is that Logback
>>>>>>>> isn't synchronized on the append method.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 6 February 2017 at 18:18, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Is this something we can improve performance on by implementing a
>>>>>>>>> file appender based on FileChannel or AsynchronousFileChannel instead 
>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>> OutputStream?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 6 February 2017 at 17:50, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ceki has updated his numbers to include those reported on the
>>>>>>>>>> mailing list. https://docs.google.com/
>>>>>>>>>> spreadsheets/d/1cpb5D7qnyye4W0RTlHUnXedYK98catNZytYIu5D91m0/
>>>>>>>>>> edit#gid=0
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I haven’t run the tests with Logback 1.2-SNAPSHOT but my numbers
>>>>>>>>>> for my two MacBooks are at https://docs.google.com/spread
>>>>>>>>>> sheets/d/1L67IhmUVvyLBWtC6iq0TMj-j0vrbKsUKWuZV0Nlqisk/edit?u
>>>>>>>>>> sp=sharing.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2017, at 9:33 AM, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, that is still the standard approach most people use and is
>>>>>>>>>> the only way to provide a head-to-head comparison against the logging
>>>>>>>>>> frameworks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 6, 2017, at 8:02 AM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> This is all in a synchronous appender, right? Either way, that's
>>>>>>>>>> rather interesting.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 6 February 2017 at 07:54, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Someone posted numbers on the Logback user’s list that match
>>>>>>>>>>> mine.  It shows Logback 1.1.9 was pretty terrible, 1.1.10 is 
>>>>>>>>>>> somewhat
>>>>>>>>>>> better and 1.2-SNAPSHOT is on par or slightly better than Log4j 2.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 5, 2017, at 3:25 PM, Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I think we need some comparisons on the log4j side: file
>>>>>>>>>>> appender with 256k buffer size, random access file appender with 
>>>>>>>>>>> 256k
>>>>>>>>>>> buffer size (which appears to be the default), and memory mapped 
>>>>>>>>>>> file
>>>>>>>>>>> appender. It'd be cool to see how these compose with async logging 
>>>>>>>>>>> enabled
>>>>>>>>>>> in both log4j and logback.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 5 February 2017 at 16:06, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> You should run the code at https://github.com/ceki/logback-perf to
>>>>>>>>>>>> compare your results to Ceki’s.  You also should capture the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> cpubenchmark
>>>>>>>>>>>> speed of your processor and get the speed of your hard drive. I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> used
>>>>>>>>>>>> Blackmagic speed test on my Mac. I am capturing my results in a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Google
>>>>>>>>>>>> spreadsheet. I will post the like once I have it.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 5, 2017, at 1:48 PM, Gary Gregory <
>>>>>>>>>>>> garydgreg...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If you want, I can run tests on Windows once the build works on
>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows again.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Let me know what args/command line...
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Gary
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 5, 2017 11:58 AM, "Apache" <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I guess my MacBook Pro must fit in the Slow CPU/Fast Hard
>>>>>>>>>>>>> drive category. With Logback 1.10 and -t 4  now get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Benchmark                                         Mode
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Samples        Score       Error  Units
>>>>>>>>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.julFile        thrpt
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20    98187.673 ±  4935.712  ops/s
>>>>>>>>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j1File     thrpt
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20   842374.496 ±  6762.712  ops/s
>>>>>>>>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2File     thrpt
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20  1853062.583 ± 67032.225  ops/s
>>>>>>>>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.log4j2RAF      thrpt
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20  2036011.226 ± 53208.281  ops/s
>>>>>>>>>>>>> o.a.l.l.p.j.FileAppenderBenchmark.logbackFile    thrpt
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 20   999667.438 ± 12074.003  ops/s
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I’ll have to try this on one my VMs at work. We don’t run
>>>>>>>>>>>>> anything directly on bare metal any more.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Feb 5, 2017, at 9:40 AM, Apache <ralph.go...@dslextreme.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ceki finally fixed some of the performance problems in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> FileAppender. See https://logback.qos.ch/news.html and
>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1cpb5D7qny
>>>>>>>>>>>>> ye4W0RTlHUnXedYK98catNZytYIu5D91m0/edit#gid=0. I suspect we
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a few optimizations we can make.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ralph
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Matt Sicker <boa...@gmail.com>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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