at the risk of sounding like a complete idiot I have to inquire as to the existence of some sort of log4j configuration reference. Ive been over the manual and ive seen the very sparse example(s) but is this the only place the properties file layout is documented ? I cant imagine that some reference info doesnt exist. Am i to simply infer the details from the examples or trial and error ? I would also be interested in any reference on the XML configuration. Ive seen the DTD which is helpful but a definitive reference would be nice. I like what I see so far otherwise. Thanks ! BP --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]