Hi Scott Thanks for getting back to me so quickly.
> You can download a Chainsaw bundle that includes a .bat and > .sh file from the 'Unix/Dos standalone' link right below the > Web Start link on the page. Okay I got that working. It wasn't clear that this was an installation of the software I could use on Windows. Remember Windows XP and so on are no longer based on DOS, so actually maybe you could call it a non-Webstart (or "normal") distribution, and explain on the page that it includes shell scripts for starting the application on Windows and UNIX platforms. > There's a Mac DMG available there as well. > Regarding Web Start - Web Start is a built-in way to ensure > you have the latest version of Chainsaw. But I don't want the latest version. I just want a recent version, and to get to know it, including the source code. I only want to update it manually. It's getting in the way of me working. Webstart sounds like it's for naive end users, not Java developers, as pretty much all your audience are going to be. > The first time you launch the app via Web Start, you should > be prompted if you want it to create an icon on your > desktop. It will download our jars, create the icon and > launch Chainsaw. I wasn't given that prompt. And I didn't want to *run* Chainsaw, I just wanted to download it, so I could install it and run it later, perhaps on the train. > Each time you launch Chainsaw from the Web Start link or the > icon, Web Start will check to see if there is a new version, > download any updates if needed and launch Chainsaw. There's no /way/ I want it to do that! I'm a busy developer; I don't want crucial parts of my development environment auto- updating themselves, not least as Chainsaw v2 is currently in alpha. > Web Start has been included as a part of the Java installation since 1.4. > If you are using Chainsaw from a machine that has internet > access, the Web Start link is the easiest way to get started > (one click to launch it). Otherwise, the bundles are the > way to go. That's not the easiest thing for me. I'm a real user. I don't want to have to get a browser up and running and click on a link everytime I want to run Chainsaw. I do loads of work offline, for one thing. I want my scripts to run it as and when necessary, perhaps. In the best possible taste and with thanks for what sounds like it'll be really useful, Toby Champion Java/Jython developer, University of Sussex, Brighton, England Work +44 (0)1273 872788 > -----Original Message----- > From: Toby Champion [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wed 3/8/2006 3:34 AM > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [Chainsaw]: New bundles created for general consumption > > Hello, > > I've just discovered Chainsaw and would love to get this new > release working for me. I see from the archive that you've asked > for comments, so here goes. > > This software is just what I want right now. Immediately I'm put > off though because of the web page it sems to live at: > http://logging.apache.org/log4j/docs/chainsaw.html. It all looks > a bit of a mess and I couldn't find out how to download and > install the thing without "Webstart", something I want to avoid > having to learn about right now. I'd be happy to build the thing > from source if I could get hold of it. Maybe it's all too early > or I've got the wrong end of the stick. > > So, how can I install Chainsaw v2 without Webstart? > > Also, the first thing I see when I run Chainsaw is a popup I > don't understand. Not sure what's needed here; I was just giving > my first impressions. > > Toby Champion --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
