> -----Original Message-----
> From: Drew Burlingame [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
> Sent: 24 March 2005 05:02
> To: 'Log4NET User'
> Subject: RE: Release of log4net 1.2.9 beta
> 
> Then if I'm starting a new project and I'm new to log4net, I 
> should go with 1.2.9.  Even if breaking changes are made to 
> the 1.2 line, I could stay with an non maintained 1.2.9 that 
> is more stable than an non maintained 1.1.1.
> 
> Beta label aside, does that sound accurate?

Yes. 1.2.9 is the way to go.


> 
> Thanks,
> Drew
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nicko Cadell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 9:20 PM
> To: Log4NET User
> Subject: RE: Release of log4net 1.2.9 beta
> 
>  
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Drew Burlingame [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: 23 March 2005 23:06
> > To: 'Log4NET User'
> > Subject: RE: Release of log4net 1.2.9 beta
> > 
> > "1.1.1 was released in 2002-04-13. That is the last release 
> without a 
> > beta tag, however the 1.2 beta 8 and now beta 9 releases 
> are of much 
> > higher quality."
> > 
> > Does this mean that even though 1.2 is beta, they're still a better 
> > choice than 1.1.1?  Are they as stable or more?
> 
> That depends on your criteria. 1.2.9 beta is more stable, and 
> more functional than any previous release, however it is 
> still subject to change. We have made some breaking changes 
> in this release, while we hope that we will not make any 
> further breaking changes in the 1.2 line, we will if it 
> improves the library significantly.
> 
> The 1.1.1 release will not change, so if it works for you 
> then you may want to continue using it, however it is not 
> being maintained. I know that some people are not able to use 
> software with a beta label, so they may have to use 1.1.1.
> 
> Nicko
> 
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Nicko Cadell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Sent: Wednesday, March 23, 2005 12:24 PM
> > To: Log4NET User
> > Subject: RE: Release of log4net 1.2.9 beta
> > 
> >  
> > 
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Ron Grabowski [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Sent: 23 March 2005 15:28
> > > To: Log4NET User
> > > Subject: Re: Release of log4net 1.2.9 beta
> > > 
> > > I noticed this page:
> > > 
> > >  http://logging.apache.org/log4net/release/manual/internals.html
> > > 
> > > doesn't talk about the new DebugFormat, InfoFormat, etc. 
> > > members of ILog.
> > 
> > I will update it.
> > 
> > 
> > > Are these two snippets identical?
> > > 
> > >  if(log.IsDebugEnabled)
> > >  {
> > >   log.Debug("Entry number: " + i + " is " + 
> entry[i].ToString());  }
> > > 
> > >  log.DebugFormat("Entry number: {0} is {1}", i, entry[i]);
> > >
> > 
> > Nearly but not quite. They have the same effect but there 
> are a couple 
> > of little differences.
> > 
> > If logging is disabled (i.e. log.IsDebugEnabled returns
> > false) then the first method will only evaluate the 
> log.IsDebugEnabled 
> > property and then move on. The second method will create an 
> array for 
> > the 2 parameters "i"
> > and "entry[i]", the value of "entry[i]" will be resolved 
> (it could be 
> > expensive, we don't know what the implementation is).
> > 
> > 
> >  
> > > What was the design decision behind adding new members to
> > ILog rather
> > > than overloaded existing ones? Why not just add
> > Debug(string format,
> > > params object[] args)?
> > 
> > This was discussed a couple of time.
> > 
> > Consider this existing code:
> > 
> > // ILog interface
> > void Debug(object message, Exception ex);
> > 
> > // User code
> > Debug("Message and exception", new Exception());
> > 
> > This code is used by lots of people right now.
> > If you add this method to ILog:
> > 
> > void Debug(string message, params object[] args);
> > 
> > You then get this compile time error:
> > 
> > error CS0121: The call is ambiguous between the following methods or
> > properties: 'ILog.Debug(string, params object[])' and 
> > 'ILog.Debug(object, System.Exception)'
> > 
> > Therefore it has to have a different method name. This is 
> similar to 
> > the StringBuilder which has Appender and AppendFormat methods.
> > 
> > >
> > > When was the last version of log4net that wasn't a beta?
> > >
> > 
> > 1.1.1 was released in 2002-04-13. That is the last release 
> without a 
> > beta tag, however the 1.2 beta 8 and now beta 9 releases 
> are of much 
> > higher quality.
> > 
> > Cheers,
> > 
> > Nicko
> > 
> > 
> > > 
> > > - Ron
> > > 
> > > --- Nicko Cadell <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Greetings,
> > > > 
> > > > Log4net developers are happy to announce the release of
> > > log4net 1.2.9
> > > > beta. This, our first release during incubation at
> > apache, includes
> > > > many enhancements and bug fixes.
> > > > 
> > > > The log4net website documentation has been updated to be in
> > > sync with
> > > > this release.
> > > > 
> > > > The release notes are available here:
> > > > http://logging.apache.org/log4net/release/release-notes.html
> > > > 
> > > > The release can be downloaded here:
> > > > http://logging.apache.org/log4net/downloads.html
> > > > 
> > > > ----
> > > > Nicko Cadell
> > > > log4net dev
> > > > 
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> 
> 
> 
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