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Diego Louzán commented on LBCLASSIC-58:
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The debug attribute does not work because logback will fail to log status 
errors when the xml file is ill-formed or when some appender fails due to 
misconfiguration (this last statement about appenders is a generalization based 
on DBAppender behaviour, it may be the case it's a DBAppender bug).

Suppose a configuration like this one:

<configuration debug="true">
[...]
    <!-- DB appender -->
    <appender name="DB"
            class="ch.qos.logback.classic.db.DBAppender">
        <connectionSource
                class="ch.qos.logback.core.db.JNDIConnectionSource">
            <param name="jndiLocation" value="java:comp/env/jdbc/test-ds"/>
        </connectionSource>
[...]
</configuration>

In my case, running inside tomcat if the jndi location is wrong, logback will 
silently fail without logging anything. That's why I had to add the 
StatusPrinter call in the initialization of my app, just logging logback status 
so I could trace configuration errors.

Besides that, I guess that "debug=true" will also enable other debug 
statements, which I don't want in a production environment. It's just needed to 
log logback state, not enabling debug status.

I've seen your last changes adding an event listener in a system property. 
Maybe it would be interesting to enable the SYSOUT or SYSERR listener by 
default? In my case, I would need to enable the listener by adding the system 
property to tomcat initialization script, which is far from ideal. I guess it 
will be the same in other scenarios, where you can't rely on having control of 
the initialization script, thus making it difficult to set a system property 
(j2ee containers for instance). I can't really tell a good solution to this 
because my knowledge of logback architecture is limited.

> Print Logback own erros to System.out if debug is enabled?
> ----------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: LBCLASSIC-58
>                 URL: http://jira.qos.ch/browse/LBCLASSIC-58
>             Project: logback-classic
>          Issue Type: Improvement
>            Reporter: Anton Tagunov
>            Assignee: Logback dev list
>            Priority: Minor
>
> Hello Ceki, when debug is enabled lots of messages to to System.out anyway.
> Do you think it would be a good idea to also print messages going to 
> StatusManager to System.out?
> Apparently there is huge demand for this feature.

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