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Ceki Gulcu commented on LBCORE-234:
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Hi James,

Sorry I did not respond earlier. I am on vacation and will be back on Friday. 
Anyways, I very much like the idea and intend to implement it in  the near 
future. Of course, a patch would accelerate things a little and is always 
welcome. (I'd also be quite interested to see and learn from your impl.) 

> write a special line as the first line in any log file so that the file can 
> be automatically parsed by a tool
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
>                 Key: LBCORE-234
>                 URL: http://jira.qos.ch/browse/LBCORE-234
>             Project: logback-core
>          Issue Type: New Feature
>          Components: Layout
>    Affects Versions: 0.9.9
>            Reporter: James Strachan
>            Assignee: Ceki Gulcu
>
> So there's a few tools out there for parsing log files; most of them require 
> the user to create a regex or find the right line of some config file to 
> figure out what the Pattern layout expression was used to create the log 
> file. The problem with these is the regex/patterns are quite brittle; its 
> easy for code/dependencies to change and new log configuration to become 
> effective or for users to not know the correct config/pattern for a file. 
> (Its easy to have quite a few log configuration files in a tarball/war/bundle 
> and not be quite sure which one is really active in a container for example).
> A simpler idea would be to (optionally but hopefully by default) output the 
> first line of every log file some kind of well known first line (which can 
> easily be excluded by tools that grep for stuff or whatever) which describes 
> the pattern layout thats being used to write the file - so files generated by 
> logback would be automatically parseable by a generic tool. Indeed it'd be 
> nice to have such a tool; so you can easily load a file and turn it into 
> ILoggingEvent objects by parsing the first line...
> e.g. imaging if all the files (including rolling logs and whatnot) looked 
> like this...
> {code}
> #logback.ConversionPattern=%d{ABSOLUTE} | %-5.5p | %-16.16t | %-32.32c{1} | 
> %-32.32C %4L | %X{bundle.id} - %X{bundle.name} - %X{bundle.version} | %m%n
> 11:52:08,267 | INFO  | FelixStartLevel  | BlueprintExtender                | 
> rint.container.BlueprintExtender  124 | 9 - org.apache.aries.blueprint - 
> 0.3.1 | No quiesce support is available, so blueprint components will not 
> participate in quiesce operations
> 11:52:08,400 | INFO  | rint Extender: 2 | BlueprintContainerImpl           | 
> container.BlueprintContainerImpl  266 | 9 - org.apache.aries.blueprint - 
> 0.3.1 | Bundle org.apache.karaf.management is waiting for namespace handlers 
> 11:52:08,704 | INFO  | FelixStartLevel  | jmx                              | 
> ?                                   ? | 27 - org.apache.aries.jmx - 0.3.0 | 
> Starting JMX OSGi agent
> {code}
> so via a simple bit of code the first line (or all lines starting with 
> #logback.) could be parsed to figure out the format of the file; then the 
> rest of the file could be turned into ILogEvents and passed into tools - or 
> rendered easily in the logback eclipse plugin for example.
> Folks could even reverse engineer log formats and make sure other 
> framework/tools/apps output the correct log format up front.
> Then dev/ops can just 'open a log' and its not just text with error prone 
> regex/parsing expressions that have to be guessed but a kinda 'self 
> describing log markup' 

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