What about this? I think a tanru would work
A dog attacked me.
Literally: A living being, which sounded and acted like a
dog (though i am unsure that it was), ran to me and sank its teeth into
my arm
Transition: A single living being of the {associated-by-characteristics} class
dog attacked me.
Lojban: le gerku danlu cu gunta mi
So in lojban: The {dog-like animate being} I have in mind currently, attacked me
And what would 'lo gerku danlu'... mean? Maybe -- A member of a class
of dog-like animate beings... but I don't have a specific one in mind? -- ?
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Then concerning 'a man, which is in fact a man, reads'
Can we also use a tanru for this?
le remna nanmu cu tcidu (a humany-type of male reads)?
Michael
> Date: Thu, 13 Nov 2008 15:38:28 -0500
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [lojban-beginners] Re: And more le and lo
>
> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 2:16 PM, Tom Gysel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Since 'le' carries the requirement of having a specific thing in mind, and
> > 'lo' has to refer to something which really fits the description, which
> > gadri (or any other solution) would we use for ' a dog' in the sentence: ' a
> > dog attacked me last night'? (bearing in mind that it was dark and so maybe
> > it was a dog, or a wolf, or any other doglike creature.)
>
> If one were to use the CLL definition, then really, it should be
> "le". Why? Because it is a particular thing you you have in mind,
> namely, "that thing which attacked me".
>
> That being said, I'm surprised to find that no one has yet
> short-circuited this whole discussion with reference to xorlo (
> http://www.lojban.org/tiki//tiki-index.php?page=How+to+use+xorlo&bl ).
> While not yet officially official, it's been accepted unanimously by
> the BPFK, and is in common use in the lojban community. In short, the
> part of xorlo that is relevant here is that there is no longer any
> veridical (truthiness) component to "lo", so that, under xorlo "lo"
> would be the right word to use in that sentence.
>
> --gejyspa
>
>
>
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