Noel J. Bergman wrote:
Has anyone/everyone seen Smartfrog (http://www.smartfrog.org)?  I think that 
there appears to be a very natural synergy between Lokahi and Smartfrog, 
beneficial to both communities, if HP would relicense Smartfrog under a 
suitable license.

        --- Noel

cc: Steve Loughran



1. getting hp to OSS it at all was hard enough
2. at least HP didnt make up its own OSI compatible license
3. We dont consider linking, bundling the JAR or extending existing classes as LPGL derivative activites 4. There is a branch (not the main branch, but we're planning it), that uses OSGI as the classloading, binding framework. 5. Similarly, there's some stuff that uses introspection, so that smartfrog classes dont need to be extended to make an SF component. That's not complete yet, but its a starting point. 6. We could always work together for me to produce a wrapper for Lokahi in the SF codebase, or even we could create an open BSD-licensed corner of sourceforge, so that the Apache interpretation of LPGL and Java inheritance wouldnt kick in, yet I could give others write access to the repository.

One thing we could do, LGPL notwithstanding, is come up with an API for decoupling configurable things from teh runtimes that configure them. That actually makes a lot of sense, because if your product commits to a single config infrastructure, then you are rejecting anyone who wants to use you in different ways.

Something on the lines of
 -commons-logging for logging
 -JNDI for data lookup
 -some other set of interfaces API for lifecycle callbacks and operations

We could do this in apache-land and have smartfrog an implementation.

-steve

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