Hi,
Is it possible to hard code the time-limit parameter into a problem, similar to
hard coding the max tries for a part using <parameter description="Maximum
Number of Tries" type="int_pos" default="1" name="maxtries">.
Thanks,
Mark
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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2018 15:27:31 +0000
From: "Huckleberry, David W" <dhuck...@purdue.edu>
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Subject: Re: [LON-CAPA-users] LON-CAPA-users Digest, Vol 81, Issue 2
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The problem we run into with using the spreadsheet is that the grade sync to
Blackboard won't take anything that is calculated in there, it only pulls the
awarded total.
What if you could get the tries and awarddetails info back from the
radiobuttonresponse.pm, then do something that multiples by the awarddetails
based on number of tries?
I have no idea how to code that, but just thinking logically.
Dave
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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2018 15:23:12 +0000
From: "Mills, Douglas G" <dmi...@illinois.edu>
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The only ways I know how to do this are via CustomResponse as it sounds like
you're already doing OR using the Lon-Capa gradebook, which we have
experimented with a bit but have not sustained. It's powerful but challenging
to get used to I think is a fair statement. There are no doubt others on the
list though who have mastered the gradebook and use it to great advantage who
can hopefully contribute guidance if you'd like to explore that direction.
Doug
Douglas Mills
Director of Instructional Technology
Department of Chemistry
University of Illinois
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Subject: [LON-CAPA-users] Partial Credit for multiple tries
I have a faculty member that wants to implement the following:
On a multiple choice question
Correct in 1 attempt = 100% credit
Correct in 2 attempts = 75% credit
Correct in 3 attempts = 50% credit
Incorrect = 0% credit
We do something like this in Math, but on Customresponse questions and they use
customgraders as well.
Does anyone have an example of making this happen in just a simple M\C problem?
I am decent at reverse engineering, but need a lead.
Thanks
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At one point I tried something like this within the problem itself through the
wonderful features of Lon-Capa giving access to so much information, such as
the number of tries, etc. but I think where I fell short was the fact(? --
please correct me if I'm wrong here!) that you can only use the ASSIGNED_SCORE
option with CustomResponses. While I could inside the problem calculate the
grade I wanted based on number of tries, and tried to use the weight parameter
to make that the grade, it seems that my carefully calculated weight variable
did not make it to wherever the grades are stored and the part ended up with
the default weight rather than the value I had calculated.
Doug
Douglas Mills
Director of Instructional Technology
Department of Chemistry
University of Illinois
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wrote:
The problem we run into with using the spreadsheet is that the grade sync
to Blackboard won't take anything that is calculated in there, it only pulls
the awarded total.
What if you could get the tries and awarddetails info back from the
radiobuttonresponse.pm, then do something that multiples by the awarddetails
based on number of tries?
I have no idea how to code that, but just thinking logically.
Dave
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Date: Thu, 9 Aug 2018 15:23:12 +0000
From: "Mills, Douglas G" <dmi...@illinois.edu>
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The only ways I know how to do this are via CustomResponse as it sounds
like you're already doing OR using the Lon-Capa gradebook, which we have
experimented with a bit but have not sustained. It's powerful but challenging
to get used to I think is a fair statement. There are no doubt others on the
list though who have mastered the gradebook and use it to great advantage who
can hopefully contribute guidance if you'd like to explore that direction.
Doug
Douglas Mills
Director of Instructional Technology
Department of Chemistry
University of Illinois
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Date: Thursday, August 9, 2018 at 9:53 AM
To: Discussion list for LON-CAPA users <lon-capa-users@mail.lon-capa.org>
Subject: [LON-CAPA-users] Partial Credit for multiple tries
I have a faculty member that wants to implement the following:
On a multiple choice question
Correct in 1 attempt = 100% credit
Correct in 2 attempts = 75% credit
Correct in 3 attempts = 50% credit
Incorrect = 0% credit
We do something like this in Math, but on Customresponse questions and they
use customgraders as well.
Does anyone have an example of making this happen in just a simple M\C
problem?
I am decent at reverse engineering, but need a lead.
Thanks
////////////////////////////////////////////
David W Huckleberry
Coordinator of Digtial Instruction
Department of Physics & Astronomy
Physics 176
765-494-9575
dhuck...@purdue.edu<mailto:dhuck...@purdue.edu>
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 16:25:59 +0000
From: "Mills, Douglas G" <dmi...@illinois.edu>
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Hi All,
I am looking at the wonderful examples page for the powerful &EXT() functions
in Lon-Capa
(https://s10.lite.msu.edu/res/msu/albertel/test/ext_examples.problem#0) but not
seeing anything that would return the name of a group that the student is a
part of. I've made use of the section information before and am wondering if
there is no function that returns group membership or if it just isn't listed
on this page? I've tried (analogous to the section function)
$group=&EXT("user.course.grp");
and
$group=&EXT("user.course.group");
Is there something like this also in Lon-Capa or some other way to determine in
the context of a problem if a student has been added to a specific group or not?
Thanks,
Doug
Douglas Mills
Director of Instructional Technology
Department of Chemistry
University of Illinois
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Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2018 16:51:24 +0000
From: "Raeburn, Stuart" <raeb...@msu.edu>
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Doug,
This command will return a colon-separated list of active groups to which the
current user belongs.
$groups = &EXT('user.course.groups');
similar to &EXT('user.course.sec') for the current section, except unlike a
section, where a user's session can only have a single section active at any
time, a user can be a member of multiple groups.
Note: if you have just added yourself to a group, click "Check for Changes" in
the gray Functions bar on your roles screen to update your session with
information about your new group membership.
Stuart Raeburn
LON-CAPA Academic Consortium
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Subject: [LON-CAPA-users] Is there an EXT for group membership?
Hi All,
I am looking at the wonderful examples page for the powerful &EXT() functions
in Lon-Capa
(https://s10.lite.msu.edu/res/msu/albertel/test/ext_examples.problem#0) but not
seeing anything that would return the name of a group that the student is a
part of. I've made use of the section information before and am wondering if
there is no function that returns group membership or if it just isn't listed
on this page? I've tried (analogous to the section function)
$group=&EXT("user.course.grp");
and
$group=&EXT("user.course.group");
Is there something like this also in Lon-Capa or some other way to determine in
the context of a problem if a student has been added to a specific group or not?
Thanks,
Doug
Douglas Mills
Director of Instructional Technology
Department of Chemistry
University of Illinois
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