On Mon, Jan 29, 2001 at 02:48:33PM +0000, Richard Clamp wrote:
> I'm from Birmingham damnit[0], which though north of the M25, is nowhere near
> as grim as proper up north.

Oi! where you calling grim ... though 5-7 hour GNER magical mystery tours
instead of the usual 3h is pretty grim.  

It makes Dublin, Amsterdam and Belfast considerable more
convenient than that quaint car park inside the M25  :-)

Best wishes
Chris Benson

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