On Tue, Jul 03, 2001 at 04:06:38PM +0100, Robin Houston wrote:

> Tcl is certainly an interesting language, and notably simple to
> integrate with C. I find it starts to creak horribly if you try
> to build large/complex systems in it, but it works well for simple
> tasks. Its use by Vignette and AOLServer as an embedded template
> language is a good application for it IMHO.

If Vignette's is a good application for it then thank fuck I haven't seen
any bad applications of it.

Perhaps Vignette's implementation of tcl really really sucks (wouldn't
surprise me seeing how shit they are at ... well, everything really)
but I wouldn't touch it with a bargepole.  In fact, part of my contract
with Oven was I Don't Do Vignette.

> And everyone likes C, don't they? :-)

No.  If I want to do my own memory manglement I'll use a *real* assembler,
not one that has added syntactic sugar <rant> <foam>.

> I also think Java is a decent paradigmatic OO language, that its
> standard libraries are good enough ...

Agreed.  I like Java quite a lot.  I don't like most people who try to
use it, cos they're incompetent.  That of course also means that they try
to use it inappropriately, and so I despise what they do with it.

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