On Mon, Feb 10, 2003 at 03:23:47PM +0000, Leon Brocard said:
> But if you enforce more controls on CPAN, surely people are less
> likely to upload code?
IS this necessarily a bad thing though? Would less high quality code be
better than more low quality code? To be honest I couldn't tell you the
answer although I recently saw someone complain that "all the useful
stuff from CPAN has now been reimplemented by the core Python developers
and it's better quality too" or something similar.
> At the moment CPAN is a seperate entity than the modules list. You
> could argue that everyone ignores the modules list thesedays thanks to
> search.cpan.org and CPANPLUS.
This is the same argument as 'I don't need bookmarks because I have
Google' to a certain extent but, unlike the Google argument I'm mildly
inclined to agree as long as there was a better search.
> To do this properly would need perl to be changed.
Would it? I'm talking about the problem Andy had in that he wanted to
have two versions of Template::Toolkit - one for Apache and one for
Apache2. I think solving that would involve a different CPAN structure
not a different Perl.
How hard would changing the Perl was of loading and installing modules
be so that you have
$PERL_LIB_PATH/-+-- Module-1.1
|
+-- Module-1.3
And have
use Module; # get's v1.3
use Module-1.1; # get's v1.1
ignoring legacy problems.
> Does PAR help?
> http://search.cpan.org/author/AUTRIJUS/PAR/
No.
Well, yes but I'd rather not distribute a huge quantity of Module with
an app. I still like to be able to install stuff like CPAN normally -
handling dependencies etc etc.
I'm talking more about installing something like, say, a webmail app -
I'd like to be able to do something like
nextpan> install foomail
and have it install in the right place. That might be turning CPAN into
YA Package Management system though.
> > Better integration with various packaging systems:
>
> CPANPLUS 0.50 is attempting to do this.
See, it's happening already! <grin>
> Of course, the real question is what is the problem you're trying to
> solve?
Not sure to be honest. Making sure that CPAN doesn't rest on its laurels
I suppose. Although If It Ain't Broke then Don't Fix It. But Every cloud
has a silver lining. On the other hand he who hesitates is lost and life
is very short and there's no time For fussing and fighting my friend
Or something.
Simon
