hummm so Saeeda .. what is your point ? On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 7:55 PM, Saeeda Sajjad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> Yes. > > True change, the deeper kind can only be brought about by doing minute work > over a long period of time. It is not like running the hundred metre race > where one burst of energy will get you there. It is like running a marathon. > There are miles and miles to go, and each step seems so small and so > ridiculous compared to the long distance that needs to be covered. It is > boring too, because you are going to be at it for more than an hour > (probably several hours). You would love to put in the burst of energy and > get it over and done with. But you know that burst will actually harm more > your race more than it will help. You also feel like giving up because the > small steps you are taking seem so small and pointless. But you can't give > up on the marathon because you can't give up on yourself. So you keep > plodding away, one step after the other knowing that each tiny step will > bring you closer to the end and that if you keep on going long enough you > WILL get there. So I agree with Sabahat: there are no miracle recipes, only > many many small steps, with each individual starting from him or herself. > > > ps: By the way, I know that there are a lot of examples in history where > societies and countries have changed suddenly due to one external event, > sometimes one person, often violently (revolutions etc). But the deeper (and > long lasting) changes often occur after the violent events. In that case the > violent event acts as a trigger, but the deeper changes occur by the same > long and tedious process. > > pps: This also makes me want to suggest this as topic for one of Ankahi's > discussion: working patiently and diligently towards a goal instead of > wanting a reward to drop out of the sky right NOW. > > > ----- Original Message ---- > From: Sabahat Muhammad <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: [email protected] > Sent: Friday, September 26, 2008 7:38:51 PM > Subject: [ankahi:939] Re: solutionS > > Zeeshan, > > > > There are no shortcuts. > > > > The only way to bring long-lasting definitive change to our society, and > subsequently, our leadership, is one stone at a time, one person at a time. > If I were to walk around and start preaching my message, however, I would be > shunned, booed, made fun of, and turned away. The ONLY way to do it is by > example. Decide for yourself that you will be all these things, and that > your children, and their children will be all these things. > > > > Watch how many people around you are either shamed into honesty, or just > love the way you live your life and decide to follow it. > > > > There is no shortcut. This kind of change will only manifest itself in the > next generation, but we have to start somewhere, right? > > * * > > *Sabahat * > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *Zeeshan Haq > *Sent:* Friday, September 26, 2008 1:50 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [ankahi:934] Re: solutionS > > > > Sabahat, > > Every living human being will always be agreed with you on this matter... > The biggest question that is still the we need to solve is > HOW ? > > share us what solution you have in your mind... assume Pakistan as a room > filled with 5 person and you have to build 5 qualities that you mention in > your email... > share us how you teach/preach/guide them such that they follow it in a way > that their generation will follow it through.... > > Regards, > ZH > > On Fri, Sep 26, 2008 at 12:28 AM, Sabahat Muhammad < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Thank you Rehan, > > > > But I think the bigger picture here is that Islam is so distorted, > especially the 5 pillars, that simply following them religiously won't solve > our problems. We need to start, by example, showing Pakistan that the true > spirit of Islam resides in these characteristics: > > > > 1. HONESTY > > 2. FAIRNESS > > 3. TOLERANCE > > 4. SIMPLICITY > > 5. CLEANLINESS > > > > Until we can breathe life into these words, no amount of prayer or fasting > or zakat will change this society. As a simple example, Faisal repeatedly > points out traffic violations by educated people – when you disobey a law of > the land, and Islam strictly bids us to follow the laws of whichever land we > may be in, you are neither honest nor fair nor tolerant (because in breaking > one traffic light, you endanger others and you take away their right to safe > travel, and you are impatient and arrogant – not qualities of a true > Muslim). I can bet you that a good portion of these violators are people who > pray, fast, pay alms, and have travelled for Hajj at least once in their > lifetimes. They follow the tenets of religion to the letter, but have > forgotten the spirit in which they are to do so. > > > > In the 1920s, Maulana Maududi removed Jihad from the 5 pillars of Islam and > replaced it with Shahadah. He did this to present the world with a more > peaceful face to Islam, but in doing so, he altered its meaning, and > destroyed one of the most basic tenets of this religion: Struggle. We are > bound, every day, to struggle for honesty and fairness and tolerance, to > struggle with Iblis, and to struggle with our own wayward desires. Jihad is > not 'Holy War' – there is no mention of a 'Holy War' in the Quran; war is > only a means for defense against an aggressor – Jihad means to struggle with > oneself, and to maintain, in the face of non-Muslims, a *passive*resistance > to any alteration of Islam. Losing this part of the religion has > damaged it immeasurably, but there seems to be no convincing people that > what they learned about Islam may well be wrong. You will gauge that from > the response to this post – I am sure a barrage of emails (including > yourself, I am sure) will blast the notion that Jihad ever was a part of the > 5 pillars, or that they may have been changed at all. > > > > Best Regards, > > * * > > *Sabahat * > > > > *From:* [email protected] [mailto: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] *On Behalf Of *rehan altaf > *Sent:* Thursday, September 25, 2008 7:16 PM > *To:* [email protected] > *Subject:* [ankahi:925] Re: solutionS > > > > Sabahat > > According to your last para, I totally agree. Everyone HAS TO & WILL pay > for their bad/wrong deeds in this world or after. Regardless how much he/she > thinks is following Islam. > > All I meant was, if we cling to the basic 5pillars taught by our Beloved > Prophet Mohammed (Peace be upon Him) Inshallah Allah will grant us success > in this world & the next. As far as judging as to if we are correct or not > in our actions; our Beloved Prophet Mohammed (Peace be upon Him) "more or > less" (JO ILM HASIL KARO, US KE TEHKEEK ZAROOR KARO) have instructed us to > investigate & confirm what you are being taught. > > Best regards, > Syed Rehan Altaf > 0300-8256858 > > > > On Wed, Sep 24, 2008 at 4:58 PM, Sabahat Muhammad < > [EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Rehan, > > Here begins the debate. > > Pakistanis are intolerant and crooked for a reason: we believe in our own > infallibility, and never question what we are taught. Let us recognize that > what we are taught is not necessarily the right thing just because it comes > with the tag of Islam. If it was, then you too should believe that suicide > bombings are justified and that building 9 mosques will buy you a palace in > paradise, and that every time you perform Hajj, even your murders are wiped > clean from your slate. How naïve can you get? > > > > Sabahat. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > --~--~---------~--~----~------------~-------~--~----~ You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Loose Ends Pakistan" group. To post to this group, send email to [email protected] To unsubscribe from this group, send email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] For more options, visit this group at http://groups.google.com/group/looseendspakistan?hl=en -~----------~----~----~----~------~----~------~--~---
