Heh, that reminds me of the time that someone asked me what happens when a browser requests data from a web server and I think I was down to ISO layer 1 or 2 when he said "stop". In my defense he did say to get technical so in interpreted that as meaning things like DNS lookups, TCP packetization and routing, etc., and not just the basics of the HTTP protocol.
On the broader point I think it's a valid question for many roles. I don't worry about how gas is refined when I stop at a gas station. Someone in the supply chain has to know that but even many of the highly technical positions in that supply chain won't require that bit of knowledge. On the other hand when I get gas I only need to make a few choices. Which gas station? Which grade of fuel? Anyone doing more than pushing buttons set up by someone else needs to know a lot more details so they know what their options are. Sometimes that means knowing enough to know how to tweak dockerfiles, how to rebuild from source with different settings, etc. Bear On Wed, Jan 23, 2019 at 4:46 PM Bryan Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > Kinda like how France is one of the few countries remaining with a viable, > nuclear reactor construction and related industry, at least commercially. > > Asimov's Foundation comes to mind as well. > > - bjs > > DISCLAIMER: Bias note - I'm a traditionally educated EE (semiconductor > materials). > > On Wed, Jan 23, 2019, 18:43 Craig Dibble <[email protected] wrote: > >> If you think that techno-devops-millenials, by which I will assume you >> mean abstraction, means that understanding the underlying technology no >> longer matters I encourage you to read Verner Vinge's "A Deepness In The >> Sky", set in the far future, where the protagonist essentially triumphs >> because he knows unix. >> >> The more we abstract and automate the more important it is that there are >> still people left who understand how the underlying technology actually >> works. Otherwise it's a simple case of "the smarter we become, the stupider >> we get." Case in point: why does no one seem to know how to operate a >> telephone any more? Look at all the people on the street talking on their >> mobile phones, holding them at right angles to their heads and usually the >> wrong way round! >> >> And if you haven't read Vernor Vinge's Zones of Thought series you should >> hang your head in shame! >> >> >> On Wed, 23 Jan 2019 at 02:01, 'Rodolfo' via LPI Examdev < >> [email protected]> wrote: >> >>> Hi Sergio and All.. >>> >>> I know that times change and technologies and platforms adapt to changes >>> in a surprising way, even so I firmly believe that it does not imply the >>> end of a technology like Linux hardway, on the contrary it complements it >>> and helps to explore more Linux. As for the "techmilenial" it is a fad and >>> this does not imply the end of anything in my opinion. >>> Today is trendy Kubernets, Docker, openshif, etc and still should not >>> mark the end of anything but a step of improvement we do not seek >>> perfection but progress. I look forward to adding the "millennials" to >>> improve Linux and not the other way around. >>> In my experience, knowing OpenStack was a challenge and over time I >>> appreciate it very much as I learned to explore many improvements to the >>> Linux hardway. >>> I firmly believe that all these named platforms will help improve Linux >>> as a platform in every way. >>> >>> very good question Sergio. >>> P.D: Hardway => Linux advance, Shell, coding, developer, Kernel know, >>> Debuging, Script Shell power, Load balancer.... etc. >>> >>> Only that. >>> >>> 70cf8599911e75406c18d7f9 >>> >>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ >>> On Tuesday, 22 de January de 2019 19:59, Sergio Belkin <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi, >>> Perhaps, this sounds somewhat Off-Topic and provocative. It happens that >>> I'm preparing a webinar around Linux and LPIC and we are living in a time >>> of "kubernetes, cloud, IaaS, docker, devops, and a bunch of >>> techie-millenial terms". So one somewhat ends to questioning itself, how is >>> Linux still relevant? >>> >>> Why should people to learn to master the shell, handle process, manage >>> partitions and tweak config and shell script files? >>> >>> What do you think? What would tou say? >>> >>> Has techno-devops-millenials marked the end of history and the Linux >>> relevance? >>> >>> I will appreciate your opinions a lot. >>> >>> TIA >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> lpi-examdev mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> https://list.lpi.org/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev >> >> _______________________________________________ >> lpi-examdev mailing list >> [email protected] >> https://list.lpi.org/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev > > _______________________________________________ > lpi-examdev mailing list > [email protected] > https://list.lpi.org/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
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