Dear all,

there were some update to the LPIC-304 objectives draft which I'd like to
make you aware of:

- KVM was replaced by QEMU in most of its occurrences since KVM actually is
a special case of QEMU
- In 341.1, awareness of systemd-machined and Open vSwitch was added
- In 341.3 we now cover more details on QEMU networking as well as the QEMU
Guest Agent and VirtIO drivers
- A new objectives 341.5 covers handling of virtual machine disk images
using qemu-img and libguestfish tools
- The weight of 341.2 (Xen) was reduced
- The weights of 342.2 (LXC) and 342.3 (Docker) were increased

You can review the current draft at

  https://wiki.lpi.org/wiki/LPIC-304_Objectives_V3.0

Just as for the other LPIC-3 drafts, please share any considerations you
might have.

Fabian


On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 11:09 PM Dirk Streubel <dirk.streu...@posteo.de>
wrote:

> Hello everyone,
>
> first of all i would say it is a good thing to split the 304 exam into two
> exams. For me it makes no sense to prove virtualization and high
> availability in one exam.Yesterday in our company we have the same
> discussion about k8s. And yesterday i have the same opinion like Ingo,
> Kubernetes must be part of the new exam. But after i have slept on it for a
> night i see the thing in another light.The argument that Fabian pointed
> out, so i think, is correct. K8s is an utility to manage a lot of container
> in a easy way. And Docker must pe part of the new 304 exam because i see it
> also that docker is a new kind of virtualization. If k8s would be part of
> the new exam what about ovirt, promox and maybe VMware?
>
> Dirk
>
>
>
> Am 06.03.19 um 18:18 schrieb Fabian Thorns:
>
> Hi Ingo,
>
> k8s was one of the hardest aspects of the proposal. The main rationale for
> how the draft looks like now is that k8s is, at least for now, technically
> not a container runtime but an orchestration tool. We do cover Docker, as
> it is useful on its own, too, so candidates show their proficiency in
> containerization in its original definition. Regarding k8s, we could aim
> for several potential approaches: We could cover handling objects in k8s
> (most of the stuff that goes into a yaml file to be used with kubectl
> apply), but that would leave the field of virtualization and enter the
> field of application design. We do cover this in the DevOps Tools Enginner
> exam and I'm not sure if a Linux Virtualization expert would actually deal
> with Deployments and PVCs. We could also cover the administration of k8s
> which, however, could be an exam on its own. Since we're talking about
> LPIC-3, we would certainly have to discuss specific storage classes,
> networking plugins or go into details of kube-proxy implementation and
> kubelet parameters. We would also probably consider kubeadm, although my
> impression is that the majority of productive clusters either run in the
> cloud or are deployed using higher level management tools such as Rancher,
> kops, kubespray, you name it. Squeezing all this into one aspect of several
> aspects within one exam doesn't seem to work out easily. That's why the
> proposal tests k8s deep enough to be sure the candidates are aware of it
> and its major principles, but does not require any in-depth knowledge about
> either of its these.
>
> So much for the rationale of the draft. How much kubernetes would you like
> to see in the exam personally? And what does the rest think? We can change
> the draft in any directions, but we should be sure to consider the
> relevance of the topics and the effort of learning/training it.
>
> Fabian
>
>
> On Tue, Mar 5, 2019 at 10:53 AM Ingo Wichmann <i...@linuxhotel.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi Fabian,
>>
>> I don't find Kubernetes in any of the Objectivs.
>>
>> Ingo
>>
>> Am 05.03.19 um 10:01 schrieb Fabian Thorns:
>> > Dear all,
>> >
>> > there are finally some news on how we might proceed with 304. Thanks to
>> > all of you who shared their thoughts on this, I had some really good
>> > discussions and the overall decision how to handle Virtualization and
>> > High Availability in the future isn't that easy. The only common
>> > denominator in all these discussions was the wish to separate these
>> > topics. So, here is a proposal on a pure virtualization 304 exam:
>> >
>> >   https://wiki.lpi.org/wiki/LPIC-304_Objectives_V3.0
>> >
>> > The diff to 304 version 3.0 is here:
>> >
>> >
>> https://wiki.lpi.org/pubwiki/index.php?title=LPIC-304_Objectives_V3.0&type=revision&diff=&oldid=5108
>> >
>> > We now have an additional topic on container virtualization as well as
>> > another new topic about tools such as Packer, cloud-init and Vagrant.
>> > The latter topic is closely related to the DevOps Tools Engineer exam,
>> > but, just as the container topic, is intended for Linux Ops and won't be
>> > suitable for Devs, as we will go into great technical detail in LPIC-3.
>> >
>> > As usual, I hope for your feedback and comments. It's a first shot, it
>> > certainly needs fine tuning.
>> >
>> > Oh, and in case you're wondering what happened to High Availability...
>> > stay tuned :)
>> >
>> > Fabian
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > On Sun, Nov 18, 2018 at 2:06 PM Ortwin Ebhardt <o...@capricorn.de
>> > <mailto:o...@capricorn.de>> wrote:
>> >
>> >     Hello,
>> >
>> >     while I can easily see this working with virtualization and storage
>> >     (multipath and iscsi would be something to add here), I am note
>> >     quite sure about HA; that may come from the fact that I do not know
>> >     so many HA solutions, but apart from Load Balancers and Heartbeat
>> >     acutaully nothin comes to my mind. Would that be enough for a hole
>> exam?
>> >     There would, of course, be the possibility to include HA on base of
>> >     tomcat or galera clusters - but wouldn't that go to much into
>> >     applications?
>> >
>> >
>> >     Best regards,
>> >
>> >     Ortwin
>> >
>> >     Ortwin Ebhardt
>> >
>> >     Senior Consultant
>> >
>> >
>> >     Capricorn Consulting GmbH
>> >     An Krietes Park 6
>> >     28307 Bremen
>> >
>> >
>> >     Telefon: +49 421 98981-642
>> >
>> >     E-Mail: o...@capricorn.de <mailto:o...@capricorn.de>
>> >
>> >     Internet: www.capricorn.de <https://www.capricorn.de/>
>> >
>> >     Jetzt neu: IT News von Capricorn. Kompakt – Aktuell - Direkt.
>> >     Anmeldung unter www.capricorn.de <http://www.capricorn.de>
>> >
>> >     Geschäftsführer: Thomas Bargfrede, Dipl.-Ing. Axel Buschmann,
>> >     Thomas von Massenbach, Thomas Heuermann
>> >     Registergericht: Amtsgericht Bremen, HRB 31421
>> >
>> >
>> >     Unsere Informationspflicht nach Art. 13 DSGVO finden Sie hier
>> >     <https://www.capricorn.de/datenschutz-kurz.html>
>> >
>> >     *Hinweis*
>> >
>> >     Diese elektronische Nachricht ist vertraulich und ausschließlich für
>> >     den Adressaten bestimmt. Falls Sie nicht der beabsichtigte Empfänger
>> >     der Nachricht sind, ist jede Veröffentlichung,
>> >     Vervielfältigung, Verbreitung oder Nutzung des Inhalts der Nachricht
>> >     verboten.
>> >     Falls Sie die Nachricht versehentlich erhalten haben, informieren
>> >     Sie die Capricorn Consulting GmbH bitte
>> >     unverzüglich telefonisch oder per E-Mail.
>> >
>> >     This electronic mail is intended to be for the use of the individual
>> >     or entity named above. If you are not the intended recipient of the
>> >     information, be aware that any disclosure, copying,
>> >     distribution or use of the contents of this information is
>> >     prohibited. If you have received this electronic mail in error,
>> >     please notify the Capricorn Consulting GmbH by telephone or email.
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >
>>  ------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >     *Von:* lpi-examdev-boun...@lpi.org
>> >     <mailto:lpi-examdev-boun...@lpi.org> <lpi-examdev-boun...@lpi.org
>> >     <mailto:lpi-examdev-boun...@lpi.org>> im Auftrag von Fabian Thorns
>> >     <ftho...@lpi.org <mailto:ftho...@lpi.org>>
>> >     *Gesendet:* Sonntag, 18. November 2018 13:59:27
>> >     *An:* This is the lpi-examdev mailing list.
>> >     *Betreff:* Re: [lpi-examdev] LPIC-304 Objectives
>> >
>> >     Hi there,
>> >
>> >     thanks for all your comments. It seems there is a general agreement
>> >     that 304 should be split, and that the building blocks of whatever
>> >     comes out of it are virtualization, high availability and storage.
>> >     We've already mentioned ceph and in a side conversation fibrechannel
>> >     was mentioned, but i was wondering what else should be added to the
>> >     three baskets (virtualization, HA, storage). We need to get a first
>> >     idea of the possible amount of content of each topic to see what
>> >     could potentially make up an own exam.
>> >
>> >     If you have new topics in mind for any of those three categories,
>> >     please share them here.
>> >
>> >     Fabian
>> >
>> >
>> >     On Tue, Oct 16, 2018 at 4:38 PM Fabian Thorns <ftho...@lpi.org
>> >     <mailto:ftho...@lpi.org>> wrote:
>> >
>> >         Hi there,
>> >
>> >         let's discuss exam 304 in this thread.
>> >
>> >         The current objectives are available here:
>> >
>> >           https://wiki.lpi.org/wiki/LPIC-304_Objectives_V2
>> >
>> >         Some of you raised the following points in private
>> conversations:
>> >
>> >         - Container virtualization, i.e. Docker
>> >         - Storage (i.e. Ceph, with respect to both HA and
>> virtualization)?
>> >         - Notwork HA (bonding)
>> >         - Is it still worth having a combined HA and virtualization
>> >         certification?
>> >
>> >         I'm sure there is more to discuss, so just follow up with
>> >         whatever you have in mind :)
>> >
>> >         Fabian
>> >
>> >         --
>> >         Fabian Thorns <ftho...@lpi.org <mailto:ftho...@lpi.org>> GPG:
>> >         F1426B12
>> >         Director of Certification Development, Linux Professional
>> Institute
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >     --
>> >     Fabian Thorns <ftho...@lpi.org <mailto:ftho...@lpi.org>> GPG:
>> F1426B12
>> >     Director of Certification Development, Linux Professional Institute
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> >     _______________________________________________
>> >     lpi-examdev mailing list
>> >     lpi-exam...@lpi.org <mailto:lpi-exam...@lpi.org>
>> >     http://list.lpi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > --
>> > Fabian Thorns <ftho...@lpi.org <mailto:ftho...@lpi.org>> GPG: F1426B12
>> > Director of Certification Development, Linux Professional Institute
>> >
>> > _______________________________________________
>> > lpi-examdev mailing list
>> > lpi-examdev@list.lpi.org
>> > https://list.lpi.org/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
>> >
>>
>> --
>> Linuxhotel GmbH, Geschäftsführer Dipl.-Ing. Ingo Wichmann
>> HRB 20463 Amtsgericht Essen, UStID DE 814 943 641
>> Antonienallee 1, 45279 Essen, Tel.: 0201 8536-600,
>> http://www.linuxhotel.de
>>
>
>
> --
> Fabian Thorns <ftho...@lpi.org> GPG: F1426B12
> Director of Certification Development, Linux Professional Institute
>
> _______________________________________________
> lpi-examdev mailing 
> listlpi-exam...@list.lpi.orghttps://list.lpi.org/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev
>
>

-- 
Fabian Thorns <ftho...@lpi.org> GPG: F1426B12
Director of Certification Development, Linux Professional Institute
_______________________________________________
lpi-examdev mailing list
lpi-examdev@list.lpi.org
https://list.lpi.org/mailman/listinfo/lpi-examdev

Reply via email to